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Date:      Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:16:50 -0700
From:      "Kelsey Womack" <mrp@sedona.net>
To:        <freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Dave Hayes" <dave@jetcafe.org>
Subject:   Re: Adaptec 29160 and 4.1/4.1.1
Message-ID:  <000f01c0397b$06ce2df0$020a0a0a@cx414341c>
References:  <200010190307.UAA25665@hokkshideh.jetcafe.org>

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Dave,

    We retired our 29160's and replaced them with 39160's, however, I =
see you are using IBM drives... with the 39160's, we have no probs, =
however, there are minor probs with the scsi bus being resat every now =
and then under heavy load... you might want to contact IBM for updated =
firmware.  Have fun getting ahold of it tho, if you go more than 3 days =
after talking with them and not getting your drivers, i'll send you the =
email of the person i have beenc ommunicating with whom seems to care =
and gets things done.

    -Kelsey

Kelsey Womack
Systems and Network Administrator

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Dave Hayes" <dave@jetcafe.org>
To: <freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 8:07 PM
Subject: Adaptec 29160 and 4.1/4.1.1


> I have spent a fair amount of time trying to use this card. I am still =

> experiencing problems and I thought I would relay my experiences in
> the possible hope of getting someone more knowledgable than me to tell =

> me how to proceed with this card.=20
>=20
> The motherboard I used was a ASUS P3V4X (using the VIA APOLLO 133 4X
> chipset I believe). On the adaptec 29160 was a 9GB 10K IBM LVD drive.
>=20
> I tried to initially boot using 4.1.1 floppies.  Everything appeared
> to install ok, but when I tried to boot off the freshly installed disk
> it came back with:
>=20
> F1   FreeBSD
>=20
> Default: F1
>=20
> and then proceeded to beep everytime I hit <enter> (or if it times out =

> to boot anyway).=20
>=20
> I rebooted using floppy and checked the FDISK screen. The slice was
> tagged as bootable even though I had tagged it this way earlier upon
> initial install. I retagged it as bootable and attempted to
> reboot. Same result as above.
>=20
> Next, I tried the install process from the 4.1 CD. Same result as
> above. I popped in a trusty old adaptec 2940UW, and retried the
> install. This time it worked flawlessly. So, armed with a bootable
> SCSI disk, I then placed the drive on a 29160 and tried to boot
> it. This did not work, same symptoms as before.
>=20
> I scanned the archives for some time reading up on what others had
> experienced. I tried:
>=20
>    -Every sensical combination of configuration options on the card
>    -Turning off the BIOS of the 29160=20
>    -Using the slower SCSI bus
>    -Slowing down the disk transfer rate.
>=20
> None of these worked.
>=20
> Does anyone here recognize any of these symptoms and know of a fix or
> something else to try? I really hate being told "29160s are the best
> you can get and they don't make 2940s anymore" and then not being able =

> to get it to work with my favorite OS.=20
>=20
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> ------
> Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org=20
> >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<<
>=20
>    Enjoyment is not a goal,
>       it is a feeling that accompanies important ongoing activity
>=20
>=20
>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dave,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We retired our =
29160's and=20
replaced them with 39160's, however, I see you are using IBM drives... =
with the=20
39160's, we have no probs, however, there are minor probs with the scsi =
bus=20
being resat every now and then under heavy load... you might want to =
contact IBM=20
for updated firmware.&nbsp; Have fun getting ahold of it tho, if you=20
go&nbsp;more than 3 days after talking with them and not getting your =
drivers,=20
i'll send you the email of the person i have beenc ommunicating with =
whom seems=20
to care and gets things done.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Kelsey</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kelsey Womack</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Systems and Network =
Administrator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Dave Hayes" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:dave@jetcafe.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>dave@jetcafe.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 8:07=20
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: Adaptec 29160 and=20
4.1/4.1.1</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; I have spent a fair =
amount of time=20
trying to use this card. I am still <BR>&gt; experiencing problems and I =
thought=20
I would relay my experiences in<BR>&gt; the possible hope of getting =
someone=20
more knowledgable than me to tell <BR>&gt; me how to proceed with this =
card.=20
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The motherboard I used was a ASUS P3V4X (using the VIA =
APOLLO=20
133 4X<BR>&gt; chipset I believe). On the adaptec 29160 was a 9GB 10K =
IBM LVD=20
drive.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I tried to initially boot using 4.1.1 =
floppies.&nbsp;=20
Everything appeared<BR>&gt; to install ok, but when I tried to boot off =
the=20
freshly installed disk<BR>&gt; it came back with:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=20
F1&nbsp;&nbsp; FreeBSD<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Default: F1<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; and =
then=20
proceeded to beep everytime I hit &lt;enter&gt; (or if it times out =
<BR>&gt; to=20
boot anyway). <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I rebooted using floppy and checked the =
FDISK=20
screen. The slice was<BR>&gt; tagged as bootable even though I had =
tagged it=20
this way earlier upon<BR>&gt; initial install. I retagged it as bootable =
and=20
attempted to<BR>&gt; reboot. Same result as above.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
Next, I=20
tried the install process from the 4.1 CD. Same result as<BR>&gt; above. =
I=20
popped in a trusty old adaptec 2940UW, and retried the<BR>&gt; install. =
This=20
time it worked flawlessly. So, armed with a bootable<BR>&gt; SCSI disk, =
I then=20
placed the drive on a 29160 and tried to boot<BR>&gt; it. This did not =
work,=20
same symptoms as before.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I scanned the archives for =
some time=20
reading up on what others had<BR>&gt; experienced. I tried:<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp; -Every sensical combination of configuration options on the =

card<BR>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp; -Turning off the BIOS of the 29160 <BR>&gt;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp; -Using the slower SCSI bus<BR>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp; -Slowing =
down the=20
disk transfer rate.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; None of these worked.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt; Does=20
anyone here recognize any of these symptoms and know of a fix or<BR>&gt; =

something else to try? I really hate being told "29160s are the =
best<BR>&gt; you=20
can get and they don't make 2940s anymore" and then not being able =
<BR>&gt; to=20
get it to work with my favorite OS. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thanks in advance =
for any=20
assistance.<BR>&gt; ------<BR>&gt; Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena =
CA, USA -=20
</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:dave@jetcafe.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>dave@jetcafe.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;=20
The opinions expressed above are entirely my own &lt;&lt;&lt;<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp; Enjoyment is not a goal,<BR>&gt; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; it=20
is a feeling that accompanies important ongoing activity<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
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