Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 20:21:35 +0300 From: Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Hajimu UMEMOTO <ume@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r302016 - in head: share/timedef tools/tools/locale/tools Message-ID: <a7182802-f25e-ae08-769b-15fcc786e224@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20160619171021.7ps2te7wgoxfqznv@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <201606190344.u5J3iWO6079652@repo.freebsd.org> <3387744f-7abd-417c-599f-163e78b4170e@freebsd.org> <20160619145233.kjnfyxjb75fdcucz@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160619154918.etycha7kvj4v7nrp@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <e1c4e728-5abd-3618-1cc1-a63ac64cf63a@freebsd.org> <eea90a85-3731-6870-ba83-107e23337b2d@freebsd.org> <77076d87-41ad-0cce-c703-ed9cef1bdb8b@freebsd.org> <20160619171021.7ps2te7wgoxfqznv@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6m75Ost4vG0OV8lve34fUTm0HoOHsRVin Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ljhoxWrLxihoE186QEtis6QLrjBEkHmPC" From: Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Hajimu UMEMOTO <ume@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <a7182802-f25e-ae08-769b-15fcc786e224@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r302016 - in head: share/timedef tools/tools/locale/tools References: <201606190344.u5J3iWO6079652@repo.freebsd.org> <3387744f-7abd-417c-599f-163e78b4170e@freebsd.org> <20160619145233.kjnfyxjb75fdcucz@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160619154918.etycha7kvj4v7nrp@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <e1c4e728-5abd-3618-1cc1-a63ac64cf63a@freebsd.org> <eea90a85-3731-6870-ba83-107e23337b2d@freebsd.org> <77076d87-41ad-0cce-c703-ed9cef1bdb8b@freebsd.org> <20160619171021.7ps2te7wgoxfqznv@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20160619171021.7ps2te7wgoxfqznv@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> --ljhoxWrLxihoE186QEtis6QLrjBEkHmPC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19.06.2016 20:10, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 08:05:30PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> On 19.06.2016 19:52, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>> On 19.06.2016 19:47, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>>> On 19.06.2016 18:49, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 04:52:34PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:= >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 07:57:49AM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>>>>>> On 19.06.2016 6:44, Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote: >>>>>>>> Log: >>>>>>>> - Prefer to use %d over %e where the day of the month should b= e zero >>>>>>>> filled. >>>>>>>> - Since %e means the day of the month as well, regard %e as sa= me as %d >>>>>>>> in md_order. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nonsense doubled formats in sr_*_RS locales and nonsense md_order= there too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Crap I'll dig into it, thanks for spotting it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Bapt >>>>> >>>>> Should be fixed by: >>>>> https://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/locale-triple-components.diff >>>>> >>>>> The perl script generating the locales was badly handling locales w= ith 3 >>>>> components, fixed now. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry about that >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Bapt >>>>> >>>> >>>> sr locales are badly named before anything else, proper format is >>>> language[_COUNTRY][.encoding][@variant] >>>> I.e. >>>> sr_RS.UTF-8@Latn >>>> sr_RS.ISO8859-2@Latn >>>> sr_RS.ISO8859-t@Cyrl >>>> >>>> I don't know, if out utilities (f.e. locale(1)) can handle @variant = suffix. >>>> >>>> >>> =3Dsr_RS.ISO8859-5@Cyrl >>> =3Dour, and not utilities only but libc too >> >> Since right now we have only single @variant per each encoding, and no= >> @variant for other locales, we can just drop it and use right names li= ke: >> sr_RS.UTF-8 >=20 > We have 2 for the above the Cyrl version and the Latn version >=20 >> sr_RS.ISO8859-2 >> sr_RS.ISO8859-5 >=20 > We can make aliases easily for that is that is what people want, not th= e we have > the same for other locales: >=20 > zh_Hans_CN.GB18030 > zh_Hans_CN.GB2312 > zh_Hans_CN.GBK > zh_Hans_CN.UTF-8 > zh_Hans_CN.eucCN > zh_Hant_HK.UTF-8 > zh_Hant_TW.Big5 > zh_Hant_TW.UTF-8 >=20 > With some aliases for some of the previously existing ones: > zh_TW.Big5 > zh_TW.UTF-8 > zh_CN.GB18030 > zh_CN.GB2312 > zh_CN.GBK > zh_CN.UTF-8 > zh_CN.eucCN > zh_HK.UTF-8 >=20 > Some of the new locales (that didn't exist before) I have only imported= the new > name format: > kk_Cyrl_KZ.UTF-8 > mn_Cyrl_MN.UTF-8 > sr_Cyrl_RS.ISO8859-5 > sr_Cyrl_RS.UTF-8 > sr_Latn_RS.ISO8859-2 > sr_Latn_RS.UTF-8 >=20 > I would prefer staying on the new syntax given it is allowed by some RF= C and it > is slowly being adopted everywhere else. >=20 > Btw another RFC: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5646.txt >=20 > Best regards, > Bapt >=20 Old POSIX don't use RFC 5646, there are ISO-639 two-letter codes. When encodings are different, there is no needs to specify variants, they have meaning only for the same encoding. --ljhoxWrLxihoE186QEtis6QLrjBEkHmPC-- --6m75Ost4vG0OV8lve34fUTm0HoOHsRVin Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXZtSfAAoJEKUckv0MjfbKgIQIAMrDxXUpLz5SNUNkI3uSZg76 3oy0rRpDuvL3ZW2tR7iB90MEF9J2YJD+vBayC2wP4aYRlqk+XoGbkMHyjMZOzbFW vp09lD6K+kPOzkDy5xxnipvuGFQVMjOUaHhdJo8oX0KeCYq5UdcjqF4bvsDa+cQS EmPkGcTfCxh6CP51AwzulxLMzuThdgm7J1ymAurkn4Y14++H2tMca3EMnWC/WLUK Z5x9FHUq/ZYVu1jKvT/2JlH9zTEJ7AXPqVlDW67PyG1UfwYZ2Qy5r5B8Rx3iCpJn SaRm6236N/yGIr/3UaYXXiS+T2NR8AELUfsHmUy609WwVtofRvB/dvcG7lSI+AA= =TYfX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6m75Ost4vG0OV8lve34fUTm0HoOHsRVin--
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