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Date:      Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:45:03 -0600
From:      Redmond Militante <r-militante@northwestern.edu>
To:        Bret Walker <bret-walker@northwestern.edu>
Subject:   Re: httpd in /tmp - Sound advice sought
Message-ID:  <20050208194503.GA9298@darkpossum>
In-Reply-To: <01c601c50dfd$b77d3410$17336981@medill.northwestern.edu>
References:  <4208E148.8060301@hamletinc.com> <01c601c50dfd$b77d3410$17336981@medill.northwestern.edu>

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hi

[Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:46:19AM -0600]
This one time, at band camp, Bret Walker said:

> Redmond-
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> Here is the response I got from the list.
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> I also found another file - shellbind.c - it's essentially this -
> http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Securiteam/2002-06/0073.html
> (although phpBB has never been installed).
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> I had register_globals on in PHP for a month+ because a reservation system
> I was using required them.  I now know better.  We also had php errors set
> to display for a while as bugs were being worked out.
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> The owner of this file is www, so it was put in /tmp by the apache daemon.
> I messed the file up trying to tar it, so I can't get a good md5.
> Register globals and php file uploads are both off now.  I don't think the
> system was compromised because anything written to /tmp (which is the temp
> dir php defaults to) could not be executed.
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> Do you think we're safe to continue as is?
>

this person is telling you that slapper is nothing to worry about because i=
t's a linux only virus - but if you didn't put httpd in /tmp then you shoul=
d be worried about this situation.

this is probably your call what you want to do.
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> Also, I would like to talk with you about what preventative measures you
> take with herald.  I know you run tripwire, but what else do you do on a
> regular basis?
>

one thing i do is i read /var/log/messages every day.  do you do that?

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> Bret
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mark A. Garcia
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:57 AM
> To: Bret Walker
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: httpd in /tmp - Sound advice sought
>=20
>=20
> Bret Walker wrote:
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> >Last night, I ran chkrootkit and it gave me a warning about being
> >infected with Slapper.  Slapper exploits vulnerabilities in OpenSSL up
> >to version 0.96d or older on Linux systems.  I have only run 0.97d.
> >The file that set chkrootkit off was httpd which was located in /tmp.
> >/tmp is always mounted rw, noexec.
> >
> >I update my packages (which are installed via ports) any time there is
> >a security update.  I'm running Apache 1.3.33/PHP 4.3.10/mod_ssl
> >2.8.22/OpenSSL 0.97d on 4.10.  Register_globals was on in PHP for a
> >couple of weeks, but the only code that required it to be on was in a
> >.htaccess/SSL password protected directory.
> >
> >Tripwire didn't show anything that I noted as odd.  I reexamined the
> >tripwire logs, which are e-mailed to an account off of the machine
> >immediately after completion, and I don't
> >see anything odd for the 3/4 days before or after the date on the file.
> >(I don't scan /tmp)
> >
> >I stupidly deleted the httpd file from /tmp, which was smaller than the
> >actual apache httpd.  And I don't back up /tmp.
> >
> >The only info I can find regarding this file being in /tmp pertains to
> >Slapper.  Could something have copied a file there?  Could I have done
> >it by mistake at some point - the server's been up ~60 days, plenty of
> >time for me to forget something?
> >
> >This is production box that I very much want to keep up, so I'm seeking
> >some sound advice.
> >
> >Does this box need to be rebuilt?  How could a file get written to
> >/tmp, and is it an issue since it couldn't be executed?  I run tripwire
> >nightly, and haven't seen anything odd to the best of my recollection.
> >I also check ipfstat -t frequently to see if any odd connections are
> >happening.
> >
> >I appreciate any sound advice on this matter.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Bret
> >
> >
> Slapper is a linux only virus.  You shouldn't have to worry about it
> doing harm on your freebsd machine.  Seeing as the binary was in your
> tmp directory on your system, and that you might have not placed it
> there, this could be a good reason for a host of other things to look
> into.  The httpd binary with 96d<=3D ssl is not a virus itself, just a
> means to carry out the exploit.  The slapper virus is a bunch of c-code
> that is put in your tmp directory and the exploit allows one to compile,
> chmod, and execute the code, leaving open a backdoor.
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> chrootkit does scan for the comparable scalper virus which is a freebsd
> cousin to the slapper (in that they attempt to exploit the machine via
> the apache conduit.)
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> I would think real hard, if you did put the httpd binary in there.  If
> you are sure you didn't, and you are the only one with access to the
> system, then I would be very very worried.  Running tripwire and
> chrootkit on a periodic basis should help.  Re-installing the os isn't
> your only solution, but it does give comfort knowing that after a
> reinstall, and locking down the box, no one has a in on your system.
> This could be overboard though.
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> You also might want to consider enabling the clean_tmp scripts.  Next
> time tar up those suspicious files, a quick forensics on them can do
> wonders (md5sum, timestamps, ownership, permissions.)
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> Cheers,
> -.mag
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Redmond Militante
Software Engineer / Medill School of Journalism
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