Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:43:52 +0200 From: Tijl Coosemans <tijl@FreeBSD.org> To: "Tobias C. Berner" <tcberner@freebsd.org> Cc: Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>, "kde@FreeBSD.org" <kde@freebsd.org>, Adriaan de Groot <adridg@freebsd.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Conflicts due to renamed KDE4 ports Message-ID: <20180417174352.797247c9@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <CAOshKte2mrETdLA71v0NVQ2KR8UgAy4xZvksihPeeLX0W4mw2A@mail.gmail.com> References: <a9ce1576-a254-4e79-3e50-b90d49827a1e@freebsd.org> <b3297fd4-05a4-f824-4fdd-21227531fc57@freebsd.org> <20180416211329.52e4c0dc@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <18601817.syqV60Bg9A@beastie.bionicmutton.org> <1172371d-ce51-d13b-b421-ff06363ac49e@FreeBSD.org> <CAOshKte2mrETdLA71v0NVQ2KR8UgAy4xZvksihPeeLX0W4mw2A@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:19:39 +0200 Tobias C. Berner wrote: > Long answer: KDE is shipped in mulitple, let's call them groups: > - frameworks (libraries to build kde and qt applications) -- we call > these ports kf5-foo > - plasma (the desktop) -- we'll call these ports plasma5-foo > - applications (the applications) > > Now, previously during KDE SC4 days, this was a whole "blob". This is why > it made sense to call them all kde4-foo or foo-kde4. > Now with this new split there is no real notion to call an application > foo-kde5. For example during the transition in the last few > years many KDE Application releases were a mix of Qt4 and Qt5 (i.e. > kdelibs4 and kf5 based applications). So we would have had > a kate-kde5 that was using kdelibs-kde4 ... well that would have been > confusing too. > > The same thing will eventually happen when the next KDE Frameworks will > roll around I expect, where the applications get updated one after > another, with mixed releases in between. > > We opted for the same method as other ports use. A new version appears that > is incompatible, move "bar/foo" to "bar/foo3" and update "bar/foo" in > place. I don't think this is the norm. All the big ports (perl, python, php, gcc, mysql, gtk, qt,...) just leave bar/foo and create bar/foo4. In place updating to an incompatible version can be a complete surprise for users (POLA violation) and leave them with a broken system.
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