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Date:      Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:13:32 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Michael C. Newell" <mnewell@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov>
To:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@Glue.umd.edu>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <FreeBSD-Questions@freefall.cdrom.com>
Subject:   Re: Using No-break Power Systems
Message-ID:  <Pine.SUN.3.91.950707110514.26989R-100000@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950707084435.908A-100000@latte.eng.umd.edu>

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On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Chuck Robey wrote:

> My new apartment comes with full amenities, including (what seems to be) 
> daily short power interruptions, usually less than 1 minute in length.  I'd
> like to get no-break power, something like an APC power system, just for 
> the two system boxes (not the monitor, printer, etc.)  Each system has a 
> 300 watt power supply, which I think is lightly loaded.  I was wondering 
> if anyone who has experience with power (I don't) could give me a SWAG as 
> to the VA load I need to run to be able to allow for ignoring 1 minute 
> outages, and allowing 4 minutes extra for system auto-shutdown if it runs 
> longer?

I have a Tripp-Lite 500P 500 VA and a Tripp-Lite 450LAN (it's proclaimed
to be "Internet Ready" on the box; this means it's got a telephone line
spike suppressor built in... :-) Both seem to work quite well.  I use the
500P to power my main server *INCLUDING* the monitor and modem; I've
pulled the plug on it a couple of times for as long as 15 minutes without
the system noticing.  I paid right at $200 for the 500P and $180 for the 
450 at CompUSA; you should be able to do much better from Computer 
Slogger mail order.

The thing that's missing from these guys is there's no test output that
tells the system they are connected to the state of the power; hence
there's no way for your system to gracefully shutdown once the unit
reaches their limits.  In my case I have the same problem you do - short
outages mainly caused by thunder storms; I was looking for a surge
suppressor (those outlet strips are pretty useless) as well as a backup
unit.  I had about 4 outages in one week so I decided to buy the backup
units; since then (of course) no new outages occur. 

I bought the 450 to do field testing of some radio equipment; I charge it 
up, then turn it off and drive off to where I  want to test.  I then plug 
in the radio equipment and turn it on; works great.  Once I've finished 
those tests I'm going to install it on a Sun Sparc 10 server that we have 
in our office (that's why I didn't just buy a car power inverter - I 
wanted the UPS for the Sun eventually).

Nice hearing from you again!! :-)

Thanks,

Mike

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