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Date:      Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:26:38 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@flat.berklix.net>
To:        "Carsten Zimmermann" <cz@aegisnet.biz>
Cc:        advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Use send-pr. Use chat@. 
Message-ID:  <200506231226.j5NCQc2l058453@fire.jhs.private>
In-Reply-To: Message from "Carsten Zimmermann" <cz@aegisnet.biz> of "Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:42:00 %2B0200." <4116.213.39.175.208.1119519720.squirrel@www.aegisnet.biz> 

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> Hi Julian,
Hi Carsten
> 
> I wouldn't agree. When you consider the sheer amount of unresolved PRs, I
> have a problem with adding another one to that list.

Yes, worrying, but a seperate problem.
I suggested send-pr also for the Method: 

  Regular cross posters of hot air on advocacy@ seem probably half
  incompetent.  It'll take them time to learn to create better
  sources, & use diff -c & send-pr, during which they'll post less
  crap, & after they'll be more educated with less need to post
  noise as their only `Contribution'.

> All the more when I don't know that my PR is backed by a greater
> part of the community.  Only the fact that I can handle send-pr and
> I find me somebody with commit-rights doesn't make my contribution worthy.

Commiters decide what is worthy. Convince a committer, & job
done. Commiters have a structure of answerability to colleagues.

> Instead, I would
> encourage people to ask whether there is support for their issue. Of
> course, this doesn't apply to obvious bugs.

Yes, not good if we got a flood of noise via send-pr for cvs/www:
Better for those who like to talk web to susbscribe www@.

Content of advocacy@ will remain mostly a cesspit until the over
opinionated & under skilled learn Not to excrete here without payment.
Pay Here:	man send-pr ; send-pr
		http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#gnats

> On the other hand, I wish
> people would realize sooner when a topic has been enough talked about.

Yes.

-
Julian Stacey        Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich       http://berklix.com
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