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Date:      Sat, 30 Mar 2002 23:03:11 -0600 (CST)
From:      John Utz <john@utzweb.net>
To:        "Adam D. Gorski" <agorski@engin.umich.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SB problem (was: Cat'ing /dev/audio) SOLVED!!!
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203302302240.9906-100000@jupiter.linuxengine.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.33.0203292246420.13479-100000@and.engin.umich.edu>

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this is exactly the kind of story i love hearing. i'll save this bit of 
bios obscurata for the rest of my days.

that's so weird, and cool!

congrats!

On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Adam D. Gorski wrote:

> Ok! The sound is working... let me give you a rundown of what happened...
> 
> I couldn't get anything to work, as you all have noticed, so I sorta gave
> up. One of the guys who has an SB16 working under FreeBSD wouldn't let the
> matter go that easily, and he somehow obtained an Ensoniqu es1371 card. He
> told me to try it, and that if that didn't work, he didn't know what would.
> 
> I took the card, put it in my box, fired it up, it got detected... but the
> sound was still screeching... even worse than before. Thinking that this
> could be an IRQ problem, I decided to gut my box. I took out both NIC cards,
> and disabled both IDE controllers in the BIOS. All I had left was my video
> card, my sound card, and my Promise PCI controller that connect to the IBM
> (FreeBSD) drive. I fired the box up, everything booted, the Ensonique was
> detected... but the sound was still shitty... better, but shitty. I
> basically said "screw this" and shut the box down... now, my box doesn't
> shut off automatically (since I have a UPS that I want to shut down with
> apcupsd in case of power failiure) so I turned it off by hand as many times
> before in the past 3 days... it sorta did a reset in a way, but I powered it
> down right after, not giving it a second thought.
> 
> I put all cards back in, and decided to go back to my SB PCI 64 (es1370)
> since.. well, I dunno why, just did. I go to turn the PC on... nothing.
> Dead. I freak out. I try agian. Nothing. I unplug it, plug it back in, still
> zilch. I reset my UPS, but I just can't get the box to power up! I thought I
> blew my power supply and felt like crying for a while... I unplugged it once
> more and left it unplugged for 3 minutes or so.. plugged it back in, and
> bam! It powered up. I went into the BIOS to turn my onboard IDE controllers
> back on, but they already were... "what's this?" I thought. Turns out,
> somehow my BIOS got reset... I must have caused some sort of power surge and
> it wiped it. I checked all settings and noted that all were as I always had
> them, except something called "PCI Bus timer" or something like that... I
> had it set to 0 (don't remember ever chaning it though), now it was 32. I
> figure why mess with BIOS defaults that I know nothing about, so I left it.
> I booted into FreeBSD, and just for the hell of it, I tried an mp3... sweet
> monkey's uncle! It worked! Not a crackle, not a squeek, nothing! Pure
> crystal music!
> 
> So uhm... what solved it? I guess manually resetting the BIOS... that's
> about the only thing I can think of. Maybe somehow, somwhere, over the past
> few years I changed something that Linux accepted (or ignored the dumb
> luser), but BSD took seriously... no clue. Either way, I just wanted to
> update you all with this (short story), and thank you all for responding! I
> am on my way to tweaking this box more, now that I can listen to some pretty
> music while doing it :)
> 
> I knew _we_ could do it,
> 
> - Adam
> 
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, John Utz wrote:
> 
> ::you have pretty much exhausted all of the things that i can think off.
> ::
> ::if you get it to work, plz let me know :-(
> ::
> ::On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Adam D. Gorski wrote:
> ::
> ::> Ok, several responses to various recommendations/ideas are included here..
> ::> first off.. I installed sox and performed the suggested downsampling. I took
> ::> a 44khz wav file and converted it to 38Khz, 22Khz, and 8Khz... all wav files
> ::> prdouced the same screeching as the 44Khz one.
> ::>
> ::> Next, I recompiled mpg123 and my kernel with i386 instead of p2 in
> ::> make.conf. That made no difference.
> ::>
> ::> I built my system up from source. After an initial 'bare' console install, I
> ::> did a cvsup to get /usr/src and /usr/ports, made world, made the kernel,
> ::> made X, etc., all using the optimizations I've mentioned. I do everything
> ::> 'properly' if you will, so for the kernel I started with the GENERIC file
> ::> which I modified based on reading LINT and various documents, and I compiled
> ::> it using 'make kernel KERNCONF=MYCONF'. As far as I know, I have done
> ::> everything 'according to the rules.'
> ::>
> ::> As I've said, 2 of my friends run the exact same card under 4.5 with no
> ::> problems... but let's not forget that my SP 64 (es1370) experiences the same
> ::> problem. It _could_ be that my clock is fast, but that would be odd... my
> ::> system was pretty good back in 98 when I built it.. just in case any of this
> ::> means anything:
> ::>
> ::> Asus P2B w/ P2-450
> ::> Matrox G200
> ::> 256MB ram
> ::> Promise ATA/100 Controller -> IBM Deskstar 20 gig, 7200 (BSD's Home :))
> ::> Various other driver, nics, etc.
> ::>
> ::> The box has been humming flawlessly since I've put it together, with almost
> ::> no down time (other than moving from apartment to apartment). It ran Win98
> ::> fine back in the day, then housed Linux for 2+ years... I figured I'd have
> ::> seen problems if there were any serious ones.
> ::>
> ::> Sorry to all those who don't give a crap, I didn't mean to spam this list
> ::> with my rather minor problem, but I don't really know who else to turn to :\
> ::>
> ::> - Adam
> ::>
> ::>  On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, John Utz wrote:
> ::>
> ::> ::On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Adam D. Gorski wrote:
> ::> ::
> ::> ::> Well, I re-compiled mpg123 for i386, but it's still crackling... did you
> ::> ::> mean that I should recompile my whole system form the bottom up? I hope
> ::> ::> not...
> ::> ::
> ::> ::did you recompile the entire box with p2? if you did, then you probably
> ::> ::should recompile the whole thing.
> ::> ::
> ::> ::if you just compiled the kernel and the mods with p2, then just recompile
> ::> ::and reinstall those.
> ::> ::
> ::> ::refresh my memory, did you rebuild the whole machine from src? or did u
> ::> ::just do the kernel?
> ::> ::
> ::> ::and if you just did the kernel, did u just copy the kernel up to / or did
> ::> ::you do a make install?
> ::> ::
> ::> ::if you rebuilt the kernel and modules but didnt do a make install and
> ::> ::copied the kernel to / instead, then you have a kernel that was built with
> ::> ::p2 and modules that where not.
> ::> ::
> ::> ::> - Adam
> ::> ::>
> ::> ::> ::my current supposition is a math error, because i know that gcc with the
> ::> ::> ::more specialized cpu architecture setups isnt particularly well tested,
> ::> ::> ::and it's tested even less on freebsd! furthermore, preparing oggs and
> ::> ::> ::mp3's for play is a math intensive process, so any goof ups in the math
> ::> ::> ::code would be painfully evident.
> ::> ::> ::
> ::> ::> ::but, i am guessing.
> ::> ::> ::
> ::> ::> ::
> ::> ::> ::
> ::> ::> ::> Rahul
> ::> ::> ::>
> ::> ::> ::
> ::> ::> ::--
> ::> ::> ::
> ::> ::> ::John L. Utz III
> ::> ::> ::john@utzweb.net
> ::> ::> ::
> ::> ::> ::Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
> ::> ::> ::
> ::> ::> ::
> ::> ::>
> ::> ::
> ::> ::--
> ::> ::
> ::> ::John L. Utz III
> ::> ::john@utzweb.net
> ::> ::
> ::> ::Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
> ::> ::
> ::> ::
> ::>
> ::
> ::--
> ::
> ::John L. Utz III
> ::john@utzweb.net
> ::
> ::Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
> ::
> ::
> 

-- 

John L. Utz III
john@utzweb.net

Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life


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