Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:09:01 -0800 From: Josef Grosch <jgrosch@mooseriver.com> To: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, Drew Baxter <netmonger@genesis.ispace.com> Cc: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internet Explorer and UNIX Message-ID: <19981104060901.A15161@mooseriver.com> In-Reply-To: <363F5DA4.5A56B326@softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 12:46:44PM -0700 References: <4.1.19981103140957.00b4d100@genesis.ispace.com> <4.1.19981103141736.00b57180@genesis.ispace.com> <363F5DA4.5A56B326@softweyr.com>
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On Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 12:46:44PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > Drew Baxter wrote: > > > > Alright, first off, no I meant IE. IE is available for (as you pointed out) > > HP/UX and Solaris. My question is *why* HP/UX and Solaris? Why is it that > > Because that's where they can make money? Microsoft is looking to invade > the CORPORATE desktop, and this includes people with Sun and HP workstations > on their desk, and people with Sun and HP servers in the datacenter and an > X terminal on their desk. > My current contract is at a very big HP/UX shop. HP/UX ships with Netscape on the OS CD. We do have IE installed on a few machines but almost no one uses it. In most corporate environments IT decides what tools, as in editors, browsers, etc, will be on the servers unless some bigwig makes a real stink. Most users go along with what ever IT decides to use. Baaaaa ! I don't think microsoft will make much headway with IE on the "Big" Unixes in corporate environments simply because IE does not ship on the OS CD. Most companies have a whole process to select the software to installed and used on their servers. One has to give them a very compelling reason to use a particular piece of software. Installing and using IE just because it is from microsoft is just not a good enough reason anymore. Lots of big companies are using win95/98 just because, and only because, of office. Most companies know how bad microsoft software is, there is just not a viable alternative to Office out there. [ DELETED ] > > Windows NT is easy to obtain at 300 or so bucks (workstation). But if I'm > > getting Netscape Servers under Netscape Free Server Software program > > anyway, why not support Free Unixes? > > Because Netscape can't make money there? Obviously, they believe they can > make more money for their efforts on Solaris, HP/UX, and other "big iron" > than on "itty bitty boxes." Another reason is probably the predominance > of Apache and Apache-based solutions at the low end; they have very little > incentive to compete in that arena. Would you want to compete with something > that is entrenched, widely recognized to be a good solution, and FREE? At this big HP/UX shop we are using Apache for our default web server. I asked my supervisor why we were using Apache and not Netscape server. The answer was "Everybody is using Apache". Baaaaaa! Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.0 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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