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Date:      Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:04:56 +0200
From:      Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>
To:        George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com>
Cc:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE and 11.2-RELEASE images fail to boot on BeagleBone Black
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On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 14:41:46 -0400
George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com> wrote:

> On 2019-07-14 13:44, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 10:04:30AM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote:
> >> [...] Two or three years ago it looked like arm was at the point where it
> >> should be a tier-1 platform, and I put a lot of effort into things like
> >> testing releases, because releases that actually work seem like an
> >> important thing for a tier-1 platform. 
> > 
> > I will have to admit ignorance of the past history, so I can't address
> > what went wrong there.
> > 
> > But my own view as a very casual user of arm is this:
> > 
> >  - we need more people doing testing (both releases and snapshots), and
> >    reporting the results.
> > 
> >  - we need to be better about gathering that information together.
> > [...]
> 
> Both of you are right.  But despite my own forlorn hope a few years back
> that ARM would become a fully-fledged Tier 1 platform, the fragmentation
> of the market has made it impossible.  But I still hope that maybe three
> or four widely popular ARM boards (Raspberry Pi being the most obvious
> possibility) might individually be declared Tier 1.            -- George
> 

 If we promote an ARM board to tier-1 this will never be one of the RPI.
 None of the active ARM FreeBSD developper works on it (and don't
really want to as the board and the docs just sucks).
 Just go with Allwinner or IMX6 based board and you will be good.

-- 
Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org>



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