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Date:      Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:25:07 -0000
From:      paul@originative.co.uk
To:        dfr@nlsystems.com, abial@nask.pl
Cc:        dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: cvs commit: src/sys/sys bus.h src/sys/kern subr_bus.c
Message-ID:  <A6D02246E1ABD2119F5200C0F0303D10FDAC@OCTOPUS>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Rabson [mailto:dfr@nlsystems.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 1999 7:04 PM
> To: Andrzej Bialecki
> Cc: Doug Rabson; cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG; cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys bus.h src/sys/kern subr_bus.c
> 
> 
 
> > While you're at it... I think it would be nice if the probe 
> messages were
> > printed in some orderly fashion (e.g. like SCO does it)., 
> instead of the
> > current mess. Someone even said that a person who saw 
> FreeBSD booting for
> > the first time was scared that something broke... :-). But, 
> seriously,
> > how about reformatting the probe messages to something like this:
> > 
> > Driver Unit Bus Irq Drq IOport Maddr   Msize Description
> > 
> ------+----+---+---+---+------+-------+-----+-----------------
> -----------
> >  ed     0   ISA  5   -  0x300  0xd8000  ---   NE2000-compat 
> Ethernet card
> >  fdc    0   ISA  6   2  0x3f0    ---    ---   Floppy drive 
> controller
> > 
> > etc, etc, with more details available on request (i.e. 
> boot: -v). This
> > should give a much better first-time impression...

I tried to install Openserver on a spare partition recently to see what
it was all about and this was one of the things I liked (I couldn't get
it to install so there wasn't much else to see!).

> I'm not sure how popular this will be.  Driver writers seem to like
> printing all kinds of stuff during probe/attach.  Perhaps its 
> better to
> just hide the lot behind a nice splash screen :-).

I think driver writers should be constrained in what they can print so
that boot messages can become more orthogonal across devices. A boot
flag (like verbose) can free that restriction but by default the boot
messages could be tidied up a lot.

Hiding it behind a splash screen is even better :-) As long as there is
an option to have the machine boot verbosely so you can see them when
you need to.

Paul.

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