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Date:      Sat, 20 Aug 2016 10:27:05 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>,  "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>,  "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r304513 - in head: . share/man/man4/man4.i386 sys/conf sys/dev/ie sys/i386/conf sys/modules sys/modules/ie sys/pc98/conf
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:51 AM, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:49:30 AM John Baldwin wrote:
>> Author: jhb
>> Date: Sat Aug 20 00:49:29 2016
>> New Revision: 304513
>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/304513
>>
>> Log:
>>   Remove the ie(4) driver for Intel 82586 ISA Ethernet adapters.
>>
>>   This driver only supports 10Mb Ethernet using PIO (the hardware supports
>>   DMA, but the driver only does PIO).  There are not any PCCard adapters
>>   supported by this driver, only ISA cards.  In addition, it does not use
>>   bus_space but instead uses bcopy with volatile pointers triggering a
>>   host of warnings.  (if_ie.c is one of 3 files always built with
>>   -Wno-error)
>>
>>   Relnotes:   yes
>
> This concludes the list of older drivers I had from earlier after working
> on the timeout(9) -> callout(9) changes (almost finished with that, just
> a few things left to test changes for, one of them being fail points before
> we can remove timeout()/untimeout() entirely).
>
> I do not have plans for removing any other drivers, though am open to
> suggestions.  Some possibilities include:
>
> - tty drivers that haven't been updated to new tty and have been disconnected
>   from the build since 8.0 including digi(4) and cy(4).  I know Bruce has
>   patches for sio(4) that I just haven't merged, so I'm inclined to leave
>   sio(4), but the other disconnected drivers are candidates I think.

These should be removed.

> - Older storage adapters:
>   - aha (ISA)
>   - ahb (EISA)
>   - adv (ISA / EISA / PCI)
>   - adw (PCI)?
>   - bt (ISA / EISA / PCI)
>   - aic (ISA / PCCard)

Most of these can go. There were PC Card versions of adv, but I never got
around to getting the adv attachment working. Mostly because the cards were
expensive and the one that fell into my hands lacked the dongle. aic
was a workhorse,
but I think is no longer.

>   - ct (ISA / CBUS)

ct likely should stay. It's used in a lot of PC-98 gear that I think is
still deployed.

>   - dpt (ISA / EISA / PCI)

Not sure on this one.

>   - ncv (PCCard / PCI)
>   - nsp (PCCard)
>   - stg (ISA / PCCard / PCI)
>   (Note: some of these are PC-98 related and might remove too much of the
>    PC-98 ecosystem if removed?)

That's hard to say. They were widely used on PC-9821 laptops back in the day,
but I'm not sure how much.  I'd be inclined to keep them in pending discussions
with the pc98 folks.

> - mse(4) (ISA-only non-PS-2, non-serial mouse)

This is the PC-98 mouse.

> - joy(4) (ISA-only, was on various Sound Cards, etc., but I haven't seen
>   a "game port" on a modern box in a long while)

If it still works, what's the rush? Then again, I doubt it's been attached to
in many years.

EISA can likely be safely removed in 12. It was deprecated in 11 when I
made it opt-in.

MCA likely can go too.

I used to have a boatload of aha and bt cards, but gave up on them
years ago. It would be a shame to see them go, but it would help to
cleanup CAM a bit since many of the dark corner cases in CAM exist
for one ancient SIM or another. While I'd like my aic card to keep working,
I've long since tossed the SCSI gear I used to connect with it.

The PC Card network drivers, on the other hand, do all still work and I've
tested them recently. I'll send pics of my wall of drawers that I keep them
all in.

My only request is that if there's any PC Card related removals to please
put me on the reviews.

Warner



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