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Date:      Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:30:31 -0700
From:      Robert Clark <res03db2@gte.net>
To:        Kal Torak <kaltorak@quake.com.au>
Cc:        Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>, FreeBSD-questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Creating EXACT image of a CD
Message-ID:  <20010415193031.A42447@darkstar.gte.net>
In-Reply-To: <3ADA30B7.910C3921@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:37:27AM %2B1000
References:  <3AD68EBA.EC6A8380@quake.com.au> <20010413135052.H75296@scientia.demon.co.uk> <3AD80DD3.7CA90D11@quake.com.au> <20010415220524.A41165@scientia.demon.co.uk> <3ADA30B7.910C3921@quake.com.au>

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Some copy protection schemes introduce intentional
errors on the master. Many CD-ROM drives fix the error
before passing the data on.

I would think that using dd to copy these sort of discs
would not produce an identical copy.

[RC]

On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:37:27AM +1000, Kal Torak wrote:
> Ben Smithurst wrote:
> > 
> > Kal Torak wrote:
> > 
> > > I never like to use the original cd, I always use a backup...
> > > But it wont let me, do you have any idea how it knows its different
> > > from the original and how I can fix that?
> > 
> > no idea, sorry.
> 
> 
> Yeah no problem... I think they must do something to a sector on the disk
> so that its not readable, but there is no data there, and somehow it checks
> for this to make sure its the real cd...
> 
> using dd you get all the data, but it doesnt copy the special sector, infact
> it seems to cause dd to ether generate and error or go into a read loop that
> it wont get out of even with a kill -9...
> 
> There must be some tool that can just make an image, even of whatever tricks
> they do with sectors... Its so damn annoying not being able to make working
> backups of cd's these days!
> 
> In my country its a consumers right to be able to make a backup copy... They
> seem to be making it very hard to use this right...
> 
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