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Date:      Fri, 30 May 1997 07:57:36 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Curt Sampson <cjs@portal.ca>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
Cc:        freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Australian people want alphas to play with?
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.93.970530074950.13711D-100000@gnostic.cynic.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970530185705.10919B-100000@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

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On Fri, 30 May 1997, Adrian Chadd wrote:

> If people in Australia are after some alphas to play with, contact me at
> adrian@deathstar.ml.org, and I'll arrange some. I'm picking up a multia
> 166MHz, and one of these 233Mhz ones to play with, if people *seriously*
> are after these to develop the port on, email me. This isn't
> guaranteed for long, so let me know and I'll pass the information on.
> 
> Of course, this is if they are any GOOD for developing the port on, people
> please comment on it if you're clueful (as I'm not with alphas)

The 233 should be noticably faster than the 166, in part due to
having a 512K cache. They can usually be safely overclocked to 266
MHz as well.

These machines should be just fine for developing the Alpha port
on except for the absence of ISA slots and the speed.  The 21066
CPUs have a slow memory bus to begin with (on a good day perhaps
half the speed of a Pentium), and the Multia is worse than most
21066 machines. Under NetBSD, on a 5400 RPM disk, with 56 MB of
memory, building a fairly large kernel takes about an hour.

Also, a lot of people seem to have their Multias die mysteriously,
though I've never had a problem with mine. I've heard that putting
the motherboard in a bath of whatever one uses to clean flux off
motherboards helps.

> Seems like a certain supplier found three more 233's if anyone wanta
> them..
> 32 MB RAM > 500 MB HD
> all other details same as th 166..
> $550 delivered...

That sounds like an excellent price for it. (I paid US$1100 for my
233 MHz Multia.)  It's worth checking to see if the drive is a 3.5"
or 2.5", though; the 3.5" drives take up the space that would
otherwise be usable for a PCI expansion card.

cjs

Curt Sampson    cjs@portal.ca		Info at http://www.portal.ca/
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