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Date:      Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:16:11 +0200 (CEST)
From:      torstenb@ramsey.tb.9715.org (Torsten Blum)
To:        asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami)
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, hans@brandinnovators.com
Subject:   Re: Heads up and and a call for a show of hands.
Message-ID:  <m0wnOVX-000KgcC@ramsey.tb.9715.org>
In-Reply-To: <199707122342.QAA10120@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from Satoshi Asami at "Jul 12, 97 04:42:27 pm"

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Satoshi Asami wrote:

>  * 							      I've had
>  * users ask me why, for example, that "modula3 needed a daemon."  It
>  * doesn't, of course, but their confusion stems from the fact that
>  * during boot, the user sees something like:
>  * 	Local package initialization: apache m3 sshd
>  * 
>  * And jumps to the obvious conclusion.
> 
> Maybe the user needs to be educated? ;)

or change the message...
But I think the current "message" is ok. "Local package initialization" does
not mean that a daemon is started...
Adding shared library paths falls in the "initialization" category, IMHO.

> Am I the only one that is disturbed by the recent trend of
> behind-the-door negotiations with vendors followed by a commit
> followed by a big controversy?  It seems like the vendors were not
> even properly reminded of our standard way of doing things.  I'd hate
> to see unnecessary knobs and bells and whistles added to our system
> because some vendor can't be bothered to do even the minimal
> OS-specific customization.
> 
> If someone else feels the same way, please speak up.  Otherwise, I'll
> just slink back to my corner and close the rock behind me. ;)

No, you're not alone.

 -tb

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