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Date:      04 Jan 2003 16:28:02 -0800
From:      swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen)
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [resolution] Re: sendmail (Re: 5.0-RC2 informal PR: 90 sec  sendmail   delay)
Message-ID:  <8o4r8ophil.r8o@localhost.localdomain>
In-Reply-To: <3E174E90.13BAD210@mindspring.com>
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Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> writes:

> "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote:
[...] 
> From my personal experience, DSL and cable modems are also transient
> connections.  8-(.

I've had real good service from both (in a hardware sense -- but
at every "change of state" (initiated by me), their people would 
screw something up.  After Qwest lied to me about DSL availability,
costing me dearly in Apartment choice and cost, didn't bother to
tell me about it until supposed hookup day, and then changed their
mind after explaining why they couldn't do it, I went with AT&T
for ISP AND phone service.  They managed to hook the TV filter
into my Internet line and tested it on the wrong side of the filter.
Mananged to debug that myself because I didn't want to hear them
say they didn't support non-MSFT OSes.

> The RFC-correct name is
> actually "link.local", not "localdomain", if you care, which you
> probably don't.  8-).

I could only find it in a draft, not a RFC:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99jul/I-D/draft-ietf-dnsind-local-names-07.txt

Google ignores the ".", making the search hard.  I searched again on
part of the title and author, but struck out.  I found RFC-2606 with
these new-to-me TLDs: test, example, invalid, and localhost.  I guess
it makes sense that the "localhost" domain can be the FQDN of the
local host -- no need for two domain levels there.

Do you propose changing /etc/hosts?
Say, from
    127.0.0.1	localhost localhost.my.domain
to
    127.0.0.1	localhost localhost.link.local
or
    127.0.0.1	localhost
and why not
    127.0.0.1	localhost localhost.site.local

> Yes, it's annoying that the relationship between a caching DNS
> forwarder and the DHCP assigned DNS server is not automatic in
> FreeBSD clients, like it is in Windows clients.

I've added that to my write-a-PR file, low on the list.
 
> That's even easier: only do the queue run in the "linkup" script:
> no head bumping at all.  8-).

Now why didn't I think of that good idea?  (Don't say!)

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