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Date:      Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:46:30 -0800
From:      Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
To:        Beech Rintoul <beech@alaskaparadise.com>
Cc:        Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan <gabor@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: binary patches?
Message-ID:  <20070315044630.GB62026@thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com>
References:  <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com>

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On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 02:55:15PM -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 March 2007 15:00, Gary Kline said:
> >
> This issue comes up about every six months. If you google the mailing 
> list you will find extensive discussion about why binary upgrades are 
> a bad idea. 

	Well, certainly not upgrading the "world" and kernel....


> If you want to upgrade using packages only 
> use 'portupgrade -PP'. Bear in mind it takes the package build 
> cluster a couple of weeks to catch up. For security reasons we 
> (maintainers) don't build packages and building binaries for every 
> possible configuration would place an extreme load on the build 
> cluster (not to mention the space required to host them all).

	I'm willing to donate one 400Mhz Kayak; just sans memory or disk.
	Seriously, but I think the cluster needs much faster hardware.
	At any rate, I was thinking of inbetweener-patches; so that it
	would be possible to stay current between pkg-1.2.3_4 and
	pkg-1.2.3_5, say.  This, only for the vanilla i386 packages.

	Still, given the variables of CPUTYPE and the possible/probably
	diffs in -Optimization and other CFLAGS variations, it's pretty
	clear that evn a vanilla patch would be overkill.  With almost
	17K ports, you guys have enough on your hands!

	gary




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