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Date:      Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>
To:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports
Message-ID:  <20051016085915.R95131@roble.com>
In-Reply-To: <20051016120045.C6E3A16A422@hub.freebsd.org>
References:  <20051016120045.C6E3A16A422@hub.freebsd.org>

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Vizion <vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com>
> 	My solution is not popular even if it is logical.

Honestly David, until you can make a better case your solution
doesn't seem logical either.

>I say the ports structure needs a strategy that takes account of
>the reality of tools such as eclipse and soes not hesititate to
>create entirely new categories to meet those new neeeds.

Before doing that you really need to define what constitutes a port
category i.e, a set of rules which can universally applied.  This
definition would need to encompass all ports, not just the one
you're concerned about today, and do so in a way that is
self-evident and at has some consensus among port maintainers.

> We now need something like
> ports/eclipse

That would be the worst solution I could think of, but thanks for
making your special interest clear.  We can see by this it is a
religious issue and the integrity of the ports collection is less
important than your particular application.  Since you are not
similarly advocating ports/netbeans or ports/emacs the proposition
is logically indefensible.

> But this view does not dit well with those who feel there is a virtue in
> preserving the existing structure which I cannot help but regard as an
> anachronism for these newly emerging frameworks which do not fit well into
> the traditional structure.

You've outlined several possible frameworks where there's really
only room for one.  Choose wisely.

  [ ] existing
  [ ] emerging
  [ ] traditional
  [ ] structure

-- 
Roger Marquis
Roble Systems Consulting
http://www.roble.com/



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