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Date:      Thu, 10 Jun 2021 02:10:57 -0400
From:      Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com>
To:        Victor Sudakov <vas@sibptus.ru>
Cc:        Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: lang/php72 needed
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>> The closest equivalent to Docker is jail, but jail lacks all the
>> infrastructure and automation Docker has. There are attempts to build
>> something like Docker (iocage is the most known IMHO but its images are
>> not layered which kills all the fun).

Never tried this, but you may want to evaluate focker.

https://github.com/sadaszewski/focker

It may be 'good enough' for your needs.

Who knows.

Good Luck.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:35 AM Victor Sudakov <vas@sibptus.ru> wrote:

> Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > > > I did not know that there are "poudriere" unofficial repos. I thought
> > > those
> > > > were personal builds.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It's a terminological question mostly. For the present, I've googled
> > > this up: https://github.com/simplerezo/freebsd-ports-php-vintages
> > > I'll try if it works (in a dedicated poudriere tree).
> > >
> >
> > Nice one.
> > Just to be clear, I have never paid much attention to the likes of
> > poudriere as I have never had a need.
>
> It required a small hack to work in poudriere:
> https://github.com/simplerezo/freebsd-ports-php-vintages/issues/2
> but if the ${PORTSDIR}/MOVED is removed, it works for now for PHP 7.2.
>
> [dd]
>
>
> > >
> > > I'm not the one to dictate to developers. I actually spoke with the
> guy,
> > > he is pretty much OS-agnostic, and he told me "I don't see why this is
> a
> > > problem for you, there are all versions of PHP available for Linux, or
> > > you can always use Docker."
> > >
> >
> > True.
> >
> >
> > > I did not tell him that we don't have Docker either.
> > >
> >
> > True, but we have byhve, no?
>
> bhyve != Docker. These are different technologies.
> The Linux equivalent of bhyve is kvm.
>
> The closest equivalent to Docker is jail, but jail lacks all the
> infrastructure and automation Docker has. There are attempts to build
> something like Docker (iocage is the most known IMHO but its images are
> not layered which kills all the fun).
>
> But of course neither bhyve nor jail can run ready-made Docker
> containers with PHP or whatever.
>
> --
> Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE
> http://vas.tomsk.ru/
> 2:5005/49@fidonet
>


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