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Date:      Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:05:53 +0000
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@nlsystems.com>
To:        Daniel Eischen <eischen@vigrid.com>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: sigaltstack with threads
Message-ID:  <1072537553.1143.19.camel@herring.nlsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10312270942550.26078-100000@pcnet5.pcnet.com>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.10.10312270942550.26078-100000@pcnet5.pcnet.com>

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On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 14:56, Daniel Eischen wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, Doug Rabson wrote:
> 
> > I've been using my festive spare time in porting the excellent valgrind
> > error checker to FreeBSD. While working through the complex way that
> > valgrind deals with signals, I noticed a tricky problem.
> > 
> > When a signal stack is installed in FreeBSD, the stack location is
> > recorded in the per-process state (p_sigstk to be exact). This stack is
> > used in sendsig() for signals handlers which asked for SA_ONSTACK. This
> > is a problem for valgrind since it uses two threads (I use the thr_*
> > syscalls for this purpose).
> > 
> > The main thread does most of the work and wants to take a selection of
> > signals (SIGSEGV, SIGBUS etc) on a signal stack allocated for the
> > purpose - all other signals are blocked.
> > 
> > The other thread is used for executing blocking syscalls (actually there
> > can be more than one of these for pthread programs but I don't have that
> > working yet). This syscall thread runs with something like the debugged
> > program's normal signal mask so most of those signals get routed to the
> > syscall thread. The main problem is that the syscall thread wants to
> > take the signals on its normal stack but it can't use a different
> > setting for sigaltstack.
> > 
> > It seems to me that sigaltstack needs to be per-thread state, not
> > per-process state otherwise it is essentially useless for threaded
> > programs. As far as I can make out, this is the behaviour for Linux
> > threads created using their clone syscall.
> 
> In the '96 POSIX spec, using sigaltstack() in threaded applications
> was undefined.  The new (SUSv3 200[123]?) POSIX spec allows this
> but says "Use of this function by library threads that are not bound
> to kernel-scheduled entities results in undefined behavior".  I think
> that allows you to make it per-thread, but what behavior do we
> want when there are multiple threads in a KSE/KSEG?  Should it be
> per KSE or KSEG?

I think that if its supported at all in threaded programs, it must be
per-thread state otherwise you can't prevent two different threads
colliding on the same signal stack. I can't quite see how this maps to
KSE/KSEG since I only have the most hazy model of that stuff in my head
right now.

Anyway, I've worked around things by not setting SA_ONSTACK for the
handlers that I want to run on the thread stack.





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