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Date:      Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:22:59 +0100
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>, marino@freebsd.org
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Rusmir Dusko <nemysis@FreeBSD.org>, Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org>, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r347539 - in head: biology/genpak biology/rasmol cad/chipmunk databases/typhoon databases/xmbase-grok devel/asl devel/flick devel/happydoc devel/ixlib devel/p5-Penguin-Easy editors/axe ...
Message-ID:  <53342633.2090409@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <20140327131819.GE93483@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201403082226.s28MQMtI079354@svn.freebsd.org> <20140327111602.GA57802@FreeBSD.org> <20140327125909.6b102c8d@nemysis3now> <20140327125136.GC93483@FreeBSD.org> <5334201D.8060704@marino.st> <20140327131819.GE93483@FreeBSD.org>

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On 3/27/2014 14:18, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 01:57:01PM +0100, John Marino wrote:
>> On 3/27/2014 13:51, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>>> However, I do believe that we need to have a more formal set of rules when
>>> it comes to ports deprecation (and subsequent removal), esp. given how
>>> small is probation period now (typically one or two months).
>>
>> why is short probation period a problem?
> 
> Because I feel that two months still lie within three sigmas, while six
> months is safe enough.

Safe enough from what exactly?
If you give people 3 extra months, they just squander 3 extra months.
There is zero long term impact.  You keep conveniently not acknowledging
that most of the candidates on the deprecation list fully deserve to be
on that list and have been ignored for years.  3 more months is just not
necessary.

> 
>> "svn revert" brings it right back if somebody cares enough to resurrect
>> it. [...]
>> I'd bet 99% of these nobody hears a peep about when they are gone.  For
>> the remaining 1%: version control is there for them.  Resurrection is a
>> sign the port is actually wanted.
> 
> Yeah, except that people are not always care to perform archaeology that
> is in order when they're adding new port over previously removed (example:
> `x11-themes/nimbus'; I'm still not sure what is the best way to clean this
> mess up).

I'm sure this normally works out fine though.

John



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