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Date:      Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:45:46 +0000
From:      Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
To:        marino@freebsd.org
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org>, Rusmir Dusko <nemysis@FreeBSD.org>, Eygene Ryabinkin <rea@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r347539 - in head: biology/genpak biology/rasmol cad/chipmunk databases/typhoon databases/xmbase-grok devel/asl devel/flick devel/happydoc devel/ixlib devel/p5-Penguin-Easy editors/axe ...
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 04:09:13PM +0100, John Marino wrote:
> The ports are required to be staged and I suspect without exception.  If
> the port is not staged, it is not "legal".  Lack of staging is a
> legitimate reason to remove it (although when is debatable).  And I
> completely disagree with Danfe that we as a group are expected to stage
> unmaintained ports or ports belonging to others.  I am not going to
> stage Danfe's ports, no way.  That's his job and I expect him to do it
> or release the port.

Absolutely; at this point I'm pretty close to staging all of mine (and a
bunch of few others I touch for unrelated reasons during my random sweeps
over the Collection).

I am not saying that "we as a group are expected to stage unmaintained
ports or ports belonging to others"; I don't know why you got that idea
from what I said earlier.  I remember that moment; I just never had time
to explain myself.  In short, I'd rather do staging as part of other
changes over given port, as most likely I'd be dissatisfied with their
overall quality.  Others put staging on its own on top of their priority
queue, and want to push it down ASAP.  That's fine, but I rarely stage
a port just because it needs staging.  Once I touch it, it must be close
to perfect (unless stated otherwise in the commit log), and that requires
more work and time.

> Obviously this is spring-cleaning exercise enabled by the stage support
> regulation.  That's how we notice the working ports not maintained for
> 12+ years.  After staging, I doubt you'll see such aggressive remove for
> a long time.

I sincerely hope so.  Yes again, I don't see anything wrong with ports
being under ports@ for 12+ years (or 42+, same thing).

./danfe



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