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Date:      Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:54:08 +0100
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>, Clive Lin <clive@CirX.ORG>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT modules
Message-ID:  <20010304185408.A2288@roaming.cacheboy.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010302154947.C41267@mollari.cthul.hu>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 03:49:47PM -0800
References:  <20010301234712.A47820@mollari.cthul.hu> <200103011801.f21I1VW48363@freefall.freebsd.org> <xzpd7c147wi.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20010302033532.A69557@cartier.cirx.org> <20010301234712.A47820@mollari.cthul.hu> <200103021706.f22H6Ad58131@harmony.village.org> <20010302154947.C41267@mollari.cthul.hu>

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On Fri, Mar 02, 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:06:10AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> > In message <20010301234712.A47820@mollari.cthul.hu> Kris Kennaway writes:
> > : I
> > : believe this question was resolved by Kurt Godel with the answer being
> > : "it depends" (on the axioms of your brand of mathematics you choose).
> > 
> > Didn't he prove that the best answer to many mathematical problems is
> > "maybe."  Eg, there were some questions that an axiomatic system
> > couldn't answer.  Who shaves the barber, being the most famous.
> 
> Yep. i.e. all formulations of mathematics are necessarily incomplete,
> in that they allow formulation of questions which have no provable or
> disprovable answer within the logical framework of that system.

.. and that brought me to remember something I saw somewhere.

From 'Principia Mathematica', Volume 1, A N Whitehead and B Russell.
Page 362:

"From this proposition it will follow, when arithmetical addition has
been defined, that 1 + 1 = 2."

(no, I haven't read that book. I read about it in another book I managed
to dig up. :)



Adrian

-- 
Adrian Chadd			"Programming is like sex:
<adrian@freebsd.org>		   One mistake and you have to support for
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