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Date:      Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:20:01 -0700
From:      Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
To:        Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?
Message-ID:  <20060623232001.GA20134@thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <449C371C.9090204@u.washington.edu>
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On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:46:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
> >
> >	Another thing I've been wondering about is xmms-faad2
> >	which is mp4 or a High Effiency decoder of "aac"(?)
> >	streams that only require 24kpbs to yeild fairly high
> >	fidelity sound.  Does anybody know anything about how
> >	xmms-faad2 works with good ol' xmms??  (I'm completely
> >	new to most of this--streaming sites.  But then just got
> >	new speakers w/bass boombox!)  So any tips will be very
> >	welcome.
> >
> >	gary
>    The faad2 item should just be a plugin for xmms. It's kind of 
> convoluted how they compile stuff with the faad2 lib, but basically-in 
> Linux at least-it downloads the complete faad2 source, compiles it 
> first, then compiles the plugin from a different branch from the main 
> source in the source tree.

	I don't quite understand.  Many weeks ago sky.fm had an 
	AAC stream for its "Mostly Classical" stream and I tried
	xxmms-faad to play the sky.fm AAC dtream.  ZIP.  After a 
	fewhours I kicked the cat and hit the wall and gave up.
	I've looked around for other HE encoding with AAC, no-joy.
	...

>    I was doing a bit of reading too (trying to see if I can just change 
> the source a bit to get ID3/iTunes tags to be read in xmms), and it 
> turns out that iTunes uses MP4 format with AAC encoding, as opposed to 
> AAC which uses MP2 encoding as a base.

	I know virtually Zero about this other than the theory;
	unfortunately, here theory is useless.  I poked around at 
	web sites and FAQ's:: nothing gave me any *practical*]
	advise.  xmms is beyond Neat, but exactly how does xmms-faad2
	PLUGIN???  I grep's the /work/* xmms code for pluggin, nothing.
	<&c ** 2>  [[ Interesting tidbit about Apple, BTW.]


>    Doesn't really matter all that much I suppose, but I was just 
> looking through the source trying to figure stuff out and the original 
> author's nomenclature is just a bit confusing.
> -Garrett

	Good to know I'm not the only one.  I realize we/FBSD have a 
	rather small bunch, but there are some brilliant people on-list.
	Maybe some thoughtful person can clue me in....

	gary



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