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Date:      Sun, 16 May 1999 20:55:08 -0400
From:      "Joe Gleason" <freebsd.list@bug.tasam.com>
To:        <nr1@ihug.co.nz>, <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: secure backup
Message-ID:  <006b01be9fff$ee9176e0$7271a1ce@tasam.com>
References:  <199905170014.MAA18766@smtp1.ihug.co.nz>

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I backup my workstation via piping a tar output through pgp.  I never
throught about the data error possiblity.  It would be inclined to let
tcp handle it.

If that doesn't meet your needs, you could setup something completely
insane with shell scripting.  (My answer to every problem).

The script could do something like this,
on the machine with the files to backup (I'll call it A)

it will run a find, and do a for loop on the output of that find.  For
each of these files, it will pgp the file and send it to B (system
receiving backup)

The sending can go something like this, A connects to B on port x and
sends the filename that it is about to send.  Then A connects to B on
port y and sends the data.  B saves the file that is receives on y as
the name is was given on x and then adds this file to a tarball.

This connection from A to B can be done via faucet and hose.

This way, the final product will be a tarball on B that has each file
encrypted and separate.

There would be alot of security issues in making sure that A cannot be
spoofed to send odd things to B to compromise it via ports x and y,
but that could be handled with setting the remote host in faucet,
maybe ipfw and general sanity checks on anything comming into B.

My ramblings for the day.

Joe Gleason
Tasam

----- Original Message -----
From: <nr1@ihug.co.nz>
To: <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 20:14
Subject: secure backup


> Can anyone recommend how I should go about creating a backup to an
untrusted
> machine that has the tape drive, and using an untrusted network.
>
> I'm a bit wary of encrypting the output of tar or dump, as a single
byte error
> would make the rest of the backup useless.  I'd like to encrypt
(pgp?) each
> file separately as I go, so that a corrupted byte affects only one
file on
> retrieval.  Is there an existing way to do this, or should I hack
tar or dump
> into doing it?
>
>
>
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