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Date:      Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:18:50 -0500
From:      Bob Willcox <bob@immure.com>
To:        "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <steve@sohara.org>
Cc:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@freebsd.org>, friar_josh@webwarrior.net, jim@nasby.net, laursen@netgroup.dk, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Software raid 1 on root partition?
Message-ID:  <20020716131850.GB28928@luke.immure.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020714071524.1587f419.steve@sohara.org>
References:  <25f401c228d4$a3482fb0$1a01000a@area51> <20020711091015.B51520@flake.decibel.org> <20020711200902.3653b534.steve@sohara.org> <20020713032546.GD61459@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020713075109.06ecf02f.steve@sohara.org> <20020713100218.B284@twincat.vladsempire.net> <20020713222745.00281f72.steve@sohara.org> <20020714004247.GB16279@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020714071524.1587f419.steve@sohara.org>

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On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 07:15:24AM +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:12:47 +0930
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
> G> On Saturday, 13 July 2002 at 22:27:45 +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> 
> G> > 	It seems to be about RAID on standard non-raid controllers to my
> G> > poor eye. It does not mention that they will not work, only that there
> G> > are boot restrictions.
> G> 
> G> I've been reading the atacontrol man page.  It's not very clear, but
> G> you could be right.  If so, it's a well-kept secret.  There also
> G> appears to be no way to recover such a RAID 1 partition.
> 
> 	I've found confirmation - There was a thread in -stable around the
> 18th of June (subject the new ATA driver vs. vinum) in which Bob Wilcox and
> Remo Lacho both mentioned running RAID arrays on non RAID controllers using
> the support in the ATA driver.
> 
> 	Having RAID1 without recovery seems less than ideal though.

I have been assuming (no confirmation as I haven't tried this yet)
that the recovery process is to dump the file systems on the RAID1
configuration, replace the dead disk, reconfigure/newfs the filesystem,
and then restore it. Certainly not ideal, but it still beats losing the
data I think. The only part of this that I'm uncertain about is access
to the array while one of its disks is dead.

BTW, I've been running a RAID0+1 (striped and mirrored) configuration of
4 80GB IBM disks on this system for over a month now.

Bob

-- 
Bob Willcox          Vital papers will demonstrate their vitality by
bob@vieo.com         spontaneously moving from where you left them to where
Austin, TX           you can't find them.


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