Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:52:38 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@efn.org> To: kstewart@urx.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-R installer bombs because I can't turn UDMA off... Message-ID: <20010314195238.10527@hydrogen.funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <3AB038AB.714DDECB@urx.com>; from Kent Stewart on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 07:36:11PM -0800 References: <20010313233604.59613@hydrogen.funkthat.com> <3AAF3125.6153EA6B@urx.com> <20010314112930.36100@hydrogen.funkthat.com> <3AAFF67E.4D035C8A@urx.com> <20010314160337.26978@hydrogen.funkthat.com> <3AB038AB.714DDECB@urx.com>
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Kent Stewart scribbled this message on Mar 14: > John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > > Kent Stewart scribbled this message on Mar 14: > > > > [lot of stuff deleted] > > > > > If you are using a 80-wire cable, you can try using an old 40-wire to > > > force UDMA-33. If things like buildworld work, you are probably > > > > ummm.. UDMA-33 is all the VT82C586A supoprt, and that's what I'm having > > issues with.. this is a K6-225 which was LONG before UDMA-66 even > > entered the scene... I'm using a 40-wire cabel, etc.. > > > > > loading your system just fine. Because of concerns like yours, they > > > > I wish I could even attempt a buildworld, but I can't even get past the > > frigging installer... > > You may not have any choice with your system. My KT7 had bios upgrades > to get around some of this with the Maxtor UDMA 100 drives but it > didn't help. I don't care.. I'm talking about speeds no faster than UDMA-33, the whole UDMA-66 and UDMA-100 is completely theretical and has absolutely zero relation to this problem... my motherboard can't handle anything faster than UDMA-33... right here in the ata source it says this: ata-pci.c: return "VIA 82C586 ATA33 controller"; and I should have a choice to be able to fall back to PIO mode... hell, I'd be happy with 3.3mb/sec PIO mode if it worked relibably... guess it was a bad decision to finally declare ata a fit replacement for wdc... > > > were after SOS to load the kernel and etc in PIO mode and then switch > > > to dma. I don't know what the status is on that. You can also try > > > > if it was configurable at boot time, it wouldn't matter... you just > > put the lines in loader.conf or what ever, and things work.. > > It wasn't and that was why people were after it to start up in pio > mode. and I guess still not... :( > > > using a Promise Ultra66 or Ultra100 pci card. It will probably work > > > with the drive just fine. If it doesn't, trash the drive or sell it to > > > someone that it won't matter to. It isn't going to get better with > > > time. FWIW, I have a new AMD 900 on a KT7 mb that has a Promise card > > > installed in it. > > > > so?? this is hardware that FreeBSD should support, or we are killing > > around 50% of the hardware that is in current use.. and I don't want > > to spend money and waste a PCI slot on an extra card for something I > > don't need simply because FreeBSD doesn't run... > > If it runs on Windows and doesn't run on FreeBSD, then I blame why the heck does Windows come into this?? this machine hasn't ever seen Windows (in the gui, I've had to use a boot floppy to flash it) on the hard drive... and I know the drive works fine as I did use to run Windows on the drive... just the mobo, etc haven't had windows on it... so, for all I know, windows could crash all the time on this system.. I'd never know it... [deleted information that doesn't help me now] btw, I've bcc'd sos on all of my replys, and I guess he must not be available, as he hasn't replied yet... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 408 975 9651 Cu Networking "Thank God I'm an atheist, that'd just be confusing." -- cmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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