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Date:      09 Jun 2002 18:55:10 +0100
From:      "S. Roberts" <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com>
To:        Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD-Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Portupgrade failure today after latest cvsup of ports tree
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Thanks for the bg info.

I'll just update x-screensaver manually, just to save time and grief
over this. My first nature is to chase the port-maintainer "into the
ground" over this, but for something as minor as this, I'll leave it
well alone.

I have seen postings from DougB over the last day, so I know he's
"around" - can't imagine why he's not gotten back to me though. I'll
wait to see if he does indeed post a reply to me eventually, if not,
I'll think about dropping this port altogether. I am willing to
participate as much as my own knowledge and capabilities allow, but I
cannot afford to have ports installed for which there is less than
co-operative feedback.

Thanks again for the information, Kent - its proven to be quite an
elightenment!

Stacey

On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 17:51, Kent Stewart wrote:
>=20
>=20
> S. Roberts wrote:
>=20
> > Hi Kent,
> >    I *do* run portsd -Uu after each cvsup ports-supfile (which is still
> > configured with ports-all).=20
> > I got spooked by the lack of response from the list after my initial
> > posting - thinking that there was some glaringly publicised update to
> > ruby that I missed somehow.
>=20
>=20
> I haven't noticed anything and I try to follow them closely. The cvsup=20
> mirrors are all clogged right now. I have to update my mirror manually=20
> otherwise I get a cvsup.log that is 210 bytes long. I also log all of=20
> my cvsup of ports and convert the log into html for later viewing. I=20
> haven't looked at that yet.
>=20
> There is a bunch of nasty comments by portsdb on ruby-* when it is=20
> trying to create the INDEX. We may be in the middle of a massive=20
> change of some sort.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > But I'm just happy with the fact that I got things back on stream now.
> > There is another outstanding query I have posted to the list (on which =
I
> > need advice on how to progress) about the inability to upgrade
> > x-screensaver.
>=20
>=20
> I use kde-3 and can't comment. I ran my search shell script and get
>=20
> coral# search screensaver
> Port:   xscreensaver-4.04.2
> Path:   /usr/ports/x11/xscreensaver
> Info:   Save your screen while you entertain your cat
> Maint:  DougB@FreeBSD.org
> Index:  x11
> B-deps: Mesa-3.4.2_2 XFree86-libraries-4.2.0_1 expat-1.95.2=20
> freetype2-2.1.0_1 gettext-0.11.1_3 gle-3.0.3 glib-1.2.10_5=20
> gmake-3.79.1_2 gtk-1.2.10_4 imake-4.2.0_1 libiconv-1.7.0.1=20
> libxml-1.8.17_1 pkgconfig-0.12.0
> R-deps: Mesa-3.4.2_2 XFree86-libraries-4.2.0_1 expat-1.95.2=20
> freetype2-2.1.0_1 gettext-0.11.1_3 gle-3.0.3 glib-1.2.10_5=20
> gtk-1.2.10_4 imake-4.2.0_1 libiconv-1.7.0.1 libxml-1.8.17_1=20
> pkgconfig-0.12.0
>=20
> In case you are interested
>=20
> coral# cat search
> #! /bin/sh
> cd /usr/ports
> make search name=3D$1
>=20
> I got tired of moving to ports and then doing the make search.
>=20
> There are times when I think portupgrade is designed to handle normal=20
> changes. When you get out side of normal too far, you have to manually=20
> update code.
>=20
> I just noticed that DougB was the port manager. If you go back on=20
> archives cvs-all or hackers, you will find a very curt message where=20
> he deleted his commit bit. There were no comments and it left people=20
> baffled. I am hearsay at this point. I think the commit priviledges=20
> are different by area. If he hasn't responded, it is time for=20
> ports@freebsd.org to know. However, if you check
>=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/xscreensaver/
>=20
> You can see he made changes in the last 4 days. The changes to=20
> xcreensaver may be too massive for portupgrade to deal with and a=20
> manual update is needed. When ports are deleted, seems to be a point=20
> of difficulty with portupgrade. I don't think too long about it and do=20
> the manual changes, run portsdb -F and proceed with life.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > I posted to the list as well as the port maintainer (as listed in the
> > ports directory at freebsd.org/ports, but haven't had any responses
> > (worryingly, from the port maintainer) on this issue.
> >=20
> > What other options are open for me to chase this alternatively?
>=20
>=20
> You should follow up on freebsd-ports@freebsd.org. The port manager=20
> reads ports@freebsd.org. If it has been more than 4 or 5 days, someone=20
> may look into it. There are parts of the world where people may have=20
> started their holiday, which we call vacation.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > Stacey
> >=20
> > On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 17:09, Kent Stewart wrote:
> >=20
> >>
> >>S. Roberts wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Been there, done that.....,
> >>>
> >>>Thanks all the same - I sorted this on my own soon after my post.
> >>>
> >>>One thing though.., where does information concerning the removal (as
> >>>you put it) of a port get displayed / sent to? I heard nothing about
> >>>this, and if this is something that happens pretty regularly, then it'=
d
> >>>be in my interest to check that information source often.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I think you need to portsdb -uU after every cvsup of ports-all. That=20
> >>is how I do my cvsups. That updates the INDEX.* files in /usr/ports=20
> >>when you update the structure.
> >>
> >>I think what happended is your INDEX still had the ruby port in it but=20
> >>it was deleted from /usr/ports/
> >>
> >>Kent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Stacey
> >>>
> >>>On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 15:00, Carl Petersen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>From: "S. Roberts" <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com>
> >>>>To: "FreeBSD-Questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> >>>>Cc: <knu@FreeBSD.org>
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 7:29 AM
> >>>>Subject: Portupgrade failure today after latest cvsup of ports tree
> >>>>
> >>>>Work around - remove ruby and reinstall. devel/ruby-fnmatch has been =
removed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> >>>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>--=20
> >>Kent Stewart
> >>Richland, WA
> >>
> >>http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
> >>
> >>
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Kent Stewart
> Richland, WA
>=20
> http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
>=20
--=20
Stacey Roberts B.Sc. (HONS) Computer Science
Network Systems Engineer

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Thanks for the bg info.

I'll just update x-screensaver manually, just to save time and grief
over this. My first nature is to chase the port-maintainer "into the
ground" over this, but for something as minor as this, I'll leave it
well alone.

I have seen postings from DougB over the last day, so I know he's
"around" - can't imagine why he's not gotten back to me though. I'll
wait to see if he does indeed post a reply to me eventually, if not,
I'll think about dropping this port altogether. I am willing to
participate as much as my own knowledge and capabilities allow, but I
cannot afford to have ports installed for which there is less than
co-operative feedback.

Thanks again for the information, Kent - its proven to be quite an
elightenment!

Stacey

On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 17:51, Kent Stewart wrote:
>=20
>=20
> S. Roberts wrote:
>=20
> > Hi Kent,
> >    I *do* run portsd -Uu after each cvsup ports-supfile (which is still
> > configured with ports-all).=20
> > I got spooked by the lack of response from the list after my initial
> > posting - thinking that there was some glaringly publicised update to
> > ruby that I missed somehow.
>=20
>=20
> I haven't noticed anything and I try to follow them closely. The cvsup=20
> mirrors are all clogged right now. I have to update my mirror manually=20
> otherwise I get a cvsup.log that is 210 bytes long. I also log all of=20
> my cvsup of ports and convert the log into html for later viewing. I=20
> haven't looked at that yet.
>=20
> There is a bunch of nasty comments by portsdb on ruby-* when it is=20
> trying to create the INDEX. We may be in the middle of a massive=20
> change of some sort.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > But I'm just happy with the fact that I got things back on stream now.
> > There is another outstanding query I have posted to the list (on which =
I
> > need advice on how to progress) about the inability to upgrade
> > x-screensaver.
>=20
>=20
> I use kde-3 and can't comment. I ran my search shell script and get
>=20
> coral# search screensaver
> Port:   xscreensaver-4.04.2
> Path:   /usr/ports/x11/xscreensaver
> Info:   Save your screen while you entertain your cat
> Maint:  DougB@FreeBSD.org
> Index:  x11
> B-deps: Mesa-3.4.2_2 XFree86-libraries-4.2.0_1 expat-1.95.2=20
> freetype2-2.1.0_1 gettext-0.11.1_3 gle-3.0.3 glib-1.2.10_5=20
> gmake-3.79.1_2 gtk-1.2.10_4 imake-4.2.0_1 libiconv-1.7.0.1=20
> libxml-1.8.17_1 pkgconfig-0.12.0
> R-deps: Mesa-3.4.2_2 XFree86-libraries-4.2.0_1 expat-1.95.2=20
> freetype2-2.1.0_1 gettext-0.11.1_3 gle-3.0.3 glib-1.2.10_5=20
> gtk-1.2.10_4 imake-4.2.0_1 libiconv-1.7.0.1 libxml-1.8.17_1=20
> pkgconfig-0.12.0
>=20
> In case you are interested
>=20
> coral# cat search
> #! /bin/sh
> cd /usr/ports
> make search name=3D$1
>=20
> I got tired of moving to ports and then doing the make search.
>=20
> There are times when I think portupgrade is designed to handle normal=20
> changes. When you get out side of normal too far, you have to manually=20
> update code.
>=20
> I just noticed that DougB was the port manager. If you go back on=20
> archives cvs-all or hackers, you will find a very curt message where=20
> he deleted his commit bit. There were no comments and it left people=20
> baffled. I am hearsay at this point. I think the commit priviledges=20
> are different by area. If he hasn't responded, it is time for=20
> ports@freebsd.org to know. However, if you check
>=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/xscreensaver/
>=20
> You can see he made changes in the last 4 days. The changes to=20
> xcreensaver may be too massive for portupgrade to deal with and a=20
> manual update is needed. When ports are deleted, seems to be a point=20
> of difficulty with portupgrade. I don't think too long about it and do=20
> the manual changes, run portsdb -F and proceed with life.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > I posted to the list as well as the port maintainer (as listed in the
> > ports directory at freebsd.org/ports, but haven't had any responses
> > (worryingly, from the port maintainer) on this issue.
> >=20
> > What other options are open for me to chase this alternatively?
>=20
>=20
> You should follow up on freebsd-ports@freebsd.org. The port manager=20
> reads ports@freebsd.org. If it has been more than 4 or 5 days, someone=20
> may look into it. There are parts of the world where people may have=20
> started their holiday, which we call vacation.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > Stacey
> >=20
> > On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 17:09, Kent Stewart wrote:
> >=20
> >>
> >>S. Roberts wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Been there, done that.....,
> >>>
> >>>Thanks all the same - I sorted this on my own soon after my post.
> >>>
> >>>One thing though.., where does information concerning the removal (as
> >>>you put it) of a port get displayed / sent to? I heard nothing about
> >>>this, and if this is something that happens pretty regularly, then it'=
d
> >>>be in my interest to check that information source often.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I think you need to portsdb -uU after every cvsup of ports-all. That=20
> >>is how I do my cvsups. That updates the INDEX.* files in /usr/ports=20
> >>when you update the structure.
> >>
> >>I think what happended is your INDEX still had the ruby port in it but=20
> >>it was deleted from /usr/ports/
> >>
> >>Kent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Stacey
> >>>
> >>>On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 15:00, Carl Petersen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----=20
> >>>>From: "S. Roberts" <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com>
> >>>>To: "FreeBSD-Questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> >>>>Cc: <knu@FreeBSD.org>
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 7:29 AM
> >>>>Subject: Portupgrade failure today after latest cvsup of ports tree
> >>>>
> >>>>Work around - remove ruby and reinstall. devel/ruby-fnmatch has been =
removed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> >>>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>--=20
> >>Kent Stewart
> >>Richland, WA
> >>
> >>http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
> >>
> >>
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Kent Stewart
> Richland, WA
>=20
> http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
>=20
- --=20
Stacey Roberts B.Sc. (HONS) Computer Science
Network Systems Engineer

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