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Date:      Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:58:21 -0500
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        "freebsd-fs@freebsd.org" <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 11.1 Beta 2 ZFS performance degradation on SSDs
Message-ID:  <4276a57b-5974-0d4b-c535-ea11c491b46f@denninger.net>
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On 6/20/2017 12:29, Caza, Aaron wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Karl Denninger [mailto:karl@denninger.net]
>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 7:28 PM
>> To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.1 Beta 2 ZFS performance degradation on SSDs
>>
>> Just one note below...
>>
>> On 6/19/2017 19:57, Caza, Aaron wrote:
>>> Note that file /testdb/test is 16GB, twice the size of ram available =
in this system.  The /testdb directory is a ZFS file system with recordsi=
ze=3D8k, chosen as ultimately it's intended to host a PostgreSQL database=
 which uses an 8k page size.
>> Do not make this assumption blindly.  Yes, I know the docs say to set
>> recordsize=3D8k but this is something you need to benchmark against yo=
ur
>> actual working data set.
>>
>> MANY Postgres workloads are MUCH faster (2x or more!) if you use a
>> default page size and lz4 compression -- including one I have in
>> production and have extensively benchmarked.  The difference is NOT sm=
all..
>> ....
>>
>> zroot/ticker  compressratio         1.53x                         -
>> zroot/ticker  mounted               yes                           -
>> zroot/ticker  quota                 none                          defa=
ult
>> zroot/ticker  reservation           none                          defa=
ult
>> zroot/ticker  recordsize            128K                          defa=
ult
>> zroot/ticker  mountpoint            /usr/local/pgsql/data-ticker  loca=
l
>> zroot/ticker  sharenfs              off                           defa=
ult
>> zroot/ticker  checksum              fletcher4
>> inherited from zroot
>> zroot/ticker  compression           lz4
>> inherited from zroot
>> zroot/ticker  atime                 off
>> inherited from zroot
>>
>> You may also want to consider setting logbias=3Dthroughput.  In some c=
ases
>> the improvement there can be quite material as well -- depending on th=
e
>> insert/update traffic to the database in question.
>>
>> --
>> Karl Denninger
>> karl@denninger.net <mailto:karl@denninger.net>
>> /The Market Ticker/
>> /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/
> Thanks for the suggestions Karl.  I'll investigate further after I reso=
lve this performance degradation issue I'm experiencing.  I recently read=
 another FreeBSD+ZFS+PostgreSQL user's Scale15x presentation, PostgreZFS,=
 Sean Chittenden if I recall correctly, who also advised lz4 compression =
+ 16K page size rather than 8K with PostgreZFS.
>
> With regards to my performance woes, I was originally using PostgreSQL =
in my posts to freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org but started using 'dd' to remo=
ve it as a point of contention.  In attempting to resolve this issue, I t=
ried using your patch to PR 187594 (https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/sho=
w_bug.cgi?id=3D187594).  Took a bit of effort to find a revision of FreeB=
SD 10 Stable to which your FreeBSD10 patch would both apply and compile c=
leanly; however, it didn't resolve the issue I'm experiencing.
I would not have expected my PR to impact this issue.

I suspicious of a drive firmware interaction with your I/O pattern; SSDs
are somewhat-notorious for having that come up under certain workloads
that involve a lot of writes.

--=20
Karl Denninger
karl@denninger.net <mailto:karl@denninger.net>
/The Market Ticker/
/[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/

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