Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:26:09 -0800 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@3-cities.com> To: wildcardus freakis <wildcard@dax.belen.k12.nm.us> Cc: Christopher Michaels - SSG <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>, "Russell D. Murphy" <rdmurphy@vt.edu>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd and MS Network Neighborhood Message-ID: <36C4B891.4E1443BC@3-cities.com> References: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990212161410.5512A-100000@dax.belen.k12.nm.us>
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wildcardus freakis wrote: > > I stand humblely corrected.... > > On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Christopher Michaels - SSG wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wildcardus freakis [SMTP:wildcard@dax.belen.k12.nm.us] > > > Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 4:47 PM > > > To: Russell D. Murphy > > > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Re: natd and MS Network Neighborhood > > > > > > If I remember correctly MSNN uses Netbeui/Client for Microsoft protocols > > > that are nonrouteable....if you have any routers in the middle including a > > > routed or nat box doing routing then packets pertaining to these protocols > > > are dropped...this is also the case with switches that are configured for > > > TCP/IP only. To have MSNN work you must be on the same segment as the > > > server that you want to connect to, be running Client for Microsoft or > > > Netbeui or both and have no interfering devices > > > (routers,nat,routed,switches,etc.) in the middle. > > > > > yes and no. MS network doesn't require NetBEUI it'll run perfectly > > fine over TCP/IP and that is how my personal network is configured. MS > > Networks use a proto called NETBIOS, but that runs on top of the transport > > protocol. If this weren't the case samba servers wouldn't work w/o NetBEUI > > support in the OS. The problem being that a standard windoze client cannot > > browse across subnets, it uses a broadcast message to find and advertise > > itself to the rest of the workgroup. Standard windoze 9x clients, when > > there are no NT/samba servers on the network will become the browse master > > but are not smart enough to concatenate a cross-subnet browse list. That's > > where the NT server comes in, it can have a cross-subnet browse list. If I > > remember correctly, you have an NT server/master-browser on each subnet, and > > then each server shares/compares lists. This way you get a cross-subnet > > browse list. Technically, samba has this same functionality and Russell can > > use this to have a browse list on his laptop, but to my recollection samba > > 1.19.x isn't compatible with NT servers in this respects. I honestly don't > > know if the new 2.0x is compatible. > > > > HENCE.. the question, is he on an NT network? AND.. what version of > > samba is he running? > > > > and after this long winded block of unreadable text, ultimately, > > wildcardus is right, that the ms crap is all non-routable (as far as > > browsing goes) and that's why you have your problem. The question now is, > > can it be fixed. You should be able to connect to a machine on the ms > > network, once MS knows the IP it's trying to connect to. (theoretically) > > Netbeui follows a pattern it is alway \\host\"drive share name". You don't have to browse to map a drive. The first panel that comes up provides that opportunity. There are usually a couple of drop down items that let your select your local drive letter and then map drives you have mapped before. I map a drive like \\nomad\c or \\nomad\d since I have my C and D drives set to share as the letter. I have also used the browser across switches and routers. You may have to set your routers and etc. to pass the MS stuff. You also need a master brower (NT preferred) in each segment. > > (if I just put my foot in my mouth, please don't kill me) > > > > > When i say switches I mean ones configed for TCP networks only...I have > > > several switches and I can see MSNN through them fine, but then they are > > > considered Workgroup Switches so they are configured for routing everthing > > > even Microsoft garbage. > > > > > > I might be wrong but this is to the best of my knowledge. > > > > > > Ta- > > > Sasha > > > > > P.S. My coworker just looked over my shoulder and asked me if I was > > writing a book here. ;^P > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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