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Date:      Sun, 16 Apr 2017 17:16:06 +0100
From:      Mark R V Murray <markm@FreeBSD.org>
To:        rgrimes@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        src-committers <src-committers@FreeBSD.org>, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r317015 - in head/sys: boot/forth conf crypto/chacha20 dev/random libkern sys
Message-ID:  <98247B49-8F7C-43D4-A187-54FD6E93DB05@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <201704161604.v3GG4aoq017437@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <201704161604.v3GG4aoq017437@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>

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> On 16 Apr 2017, at 17:04, Rodney W. Grimes =
<freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> So you can understand me being started when any of this arrived?  I am
> on several of the mailling list, and I think -security is probably one
> of them.

I was thoroughly ignored last time I tried to use -security. It was, =
however,
a while back. I'll try again.

> What watch list is this?  And do we have a watch list that is just =
"New Phabricator
> created" so we can make just that incident go to some mailling list so =
people stop
> getting caught off guard by commits that have been reviews that they =
wish they had
> even known there was a review?  We just need a way for being allerted =
there is a
> new review that we *might* be interested, or care to participate in =
without being
> on all the watch lists.

There is 'secteam' on Phabricator.

> And to add my hidden Blue Paint, we need to stop fearing the bike =
shed, the project
> seems to have stifled the communications process to the point it is =
becoming a
> closed door shop with everyone working in secret then dumping a commit =
in once they
> are done.  Yes, bike sheds are a bit time consuming, but so is =
duplicate work cause
> you had no idea someone else was working in the same area (your LKM =
suprize is
> an excellent example).

> We must stop working in vacuums and start to communicate, and if that =
means we
> have a few bike sheds... well.. paints on me (though I reserve the =
blue for=20
> personal use!)

Can't please everybody, but I'll add -security to the list next time.

There is a fair bit of history that predates your return to the project; =
me getting
attention to folks prepared to do reviews is a sore point. I use =
Phabricator because
it works for me (I get reviews). I was largely ignored on the mailing =
lists last time
I had a big commit.=20

M
--=20
Mark R V Murray




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