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Date:      Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:46:43 -0800
From:      David Greenman <dg@root.com>
To:        Michael Ryan <mike@NetworX.ie>
Cc:        "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Y2K 
Message-ID:  <199811251246.EAA04142@root.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:08:47 PST." <ECS9811251047E@NetworX.ie> 

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>On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:49:20 -0800 (PST) Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:
>
>> 	since FreeBSD-2.2.5, there have been a number of bug fixes.
>> 	These are available in FreeBSD-2.2.7 and soon to be 
>> 	released (Nov 30th) FreeBSD-2.2.8.
>> 
>> 	Your customer is "entitled" to these bug fixes, is he not?
>> 	When you upgrade to fix those bugs, our Y2K statement
>> 	will apply to the resulting installtion of FreeBSD-2.2.[78]
>
>Thank you for a reasonable and friendly answer, Jonathan.
>This exchange between myself and phk has already worn out but
>my simple query is whether there's a statement of compliance or
>not (or a "don't know") for 2.2.5R in particular.  The upgrade
>process is a simple one technically but takes time, which is
>what I'm trying to avoid, as it'll cost my customer money.

   I think 2.2.5 was released after we made our Y2K compliance statement, so
2.2.5 would have been thought to be Y2K compliant at the time. It wouldn't
surprise me if there have been minor Y2K fixes since that release, but this
isn't something that we keep track of, at least not in terms of it affecting
the Y2K compliance of previous releases. We can never guarantee that any
release of FreeBSD is "compliant" - only that as far as we can tell it is.
Guarantees have certain legal obligations (and remedies under law) which we
are not able to make.
   I think the main thing that people are taking issue with is the idea that
upgrades can be avoided if Y2K compliance is assured. FreeBSD (or any other
unix) has never had 'major' Y2K problems, so putting the importance of that
above all else really diminishes the importance of other bugfixes and
improvements. In other words, you have plenty of good (better) reasons to
upgrade your customer's machine(s), nevermind Y2K.

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project

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