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Date:      Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:22:47 -0300
From:      "Han Hwei Woo" <hhwoo@argosy.ca>
To:        "Joe Pokupec" <joepok@ninestar.com>, "Free BSD List" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?
Message-ID:  <001f01c33dbb$6c015070$0200a8c0@a7n8x>
References:  <BB2341B8.11DF9%joepok@ninestar.com>

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RedHat installs KDE as binary packages, wheres FreeBSD ports compiles
everything from source. If you want to install the binary package for
FreeBSD, either use /stand/sysinstall or pkg_add(1). More information is
also in the handbook.

Han Hwei Woo
http://www.argosy.ca/~hhw

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Pokupec" <joepok@ninestar.com>
To: "Free BSD List" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE?


> Hey Guys,
>
> Thanks for your input and explanations. Here's the part I don't understand
> (very simplistic view). Both machines previously had Red Hat 9 installed
on
> them. I decided that I didn't want to pay Red Hat for their up2date
feature
> on each machine and decided to go back to BSD with a GUI so I could go
back
> to the trusty, and free ports feature(s)...
>
> RH9 took less than 15 minutes to install and boot for each machine. It has
> the Blue Wave GUI and I would imagine is pretty bloated as well. So, from
> this point of view, how can one OS take 15 minutes, while the other take
15
> hours (and counting)?
>
> The machines are Pentium II, 333Mhz and 400 Mhz units (both are Dells).
Each
> machine has 256 Megs of RAM, and one of the machines has a 60 gig drive...
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
>
> > Joe Pokupec wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I installed 5.1 on 2 separate machines yesterday. After the general
install
> >> (which included all the Ports), I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and did
a:
> >
> > What are these machines?  Processor?  RAM?
> >
> >> make install clean after reading tfm.
> >>
> >> The install has been going for over 11 hours now. It's not hung up, the
text
> >> is scrolling by... On both machines...
> >>
> >> Is there something I should know?
> >
> > Yes, KDE is big ... Huge ... Like ... try to imagine more code than you
> > could ever imagine, and KDE might actually be bigger than that.  See ...
> > if you took the empire state building and put the statue of liberty on
top
> > of it and put them both underneath the New River Gorge Bridge, the space
> > left over wouldn't be as big as KDE.  If you took all the code in KDE
and
> > laid it end to end it would reach all the way to the sun, catch on fire
and
> > burn your house down (although it would take 8 minutes for the fire to
get
> > from the sun to your house, so you'd probably be able to get out in
time)
> >
> > The upshot is that KDE could easily take several days to compile if
you're
> > dealing with less than hefty hardware.  Let us know the details of the
> > hardware and we'll make some guesses on how long it should take to
compile.
> >
> >> I can re-install 5.1, 5.0, or any version on these machines if
necessary,
> >> but I'm somewhat curious about this huge length of install time...
> >
> > I doubt the version of FreeBSD is the cause.  Use ALT+F2 to switch to
> > another console on one of the machines and run "top" to get an idea of
> > what's causing the problem.  If the build process is causing a lot of
> > swapping, it's probably going to take 6 or 7 years for KDE to build.
> >
> > <disclaimer>
> > I am not an insurance salesman, if your house burns down due to anything
> > you've read in this email, I make no guarantees that your homeowner's
> > policy will cover it.
> > I'm also not responsible for personal injury or damage to the statue of
> > liberty caused by trying to balance it on top of the empire state
building.
> > (I still say that damn thing sways when the wind blows!)
> > Do not try this at home.  Offer void where prohibited.
> > </disclaimer>
> >
> > -- 
> > Bill Moran
> > Potential Technologies
> > http://www.potentialtech.com
> >
> >
>
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