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Date:      Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:08:42 -0500
From:      "Larry Rosenman" <ler@lerctr.org>
To:        "Salvo Bartolotta" <bartequi@inwind.it>, <Peter.McGarvey@telinco.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Q: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER?
Message-ID:  <NCBBKBDOOHHEJCJHLLPAIEEGHEAA.ler@lerctr.org>
In-Reply-To: <20000707.19352900@bartequi.ottodomain.org>

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can't look at that PR, it's marked confidential...



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Salvo
Bartolotta
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 2:35 PM
To: Peter.McGarvey@telinco.net
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Q: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER?


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 7/7/00, 5:12:12 PM, Peter McGarvey <Peter.McGarvey@telinco.net> wrote 
regarding Q: IPFIREWALL or IPFILTER?:


> In building a new kernel, I can add support for IPFIREWALL and 
IPFILTER.

> What I'd like to know is what's the difference?

> And which is better?

> And is both a bad idea?

> The only firewalls I've ever dealt with are of the packet filtering 
sort
> built into routers.  But now I'm playing with a FreeBSD box with 3 
NICs
> so it seems like a good time to learn a bit more about firewalls.
> Discovering that FreeBSD supports two I went looking for some sort of
> comparison between the two.  But couldn't find anything.  Hence, the
> above questions.

> --
> TTFN, FNORD

> Peter McGarvey, Unix Administrator
> Network Operations Center, Telinco Limited



Dear Peter McGarvey,

I would not like to start a theological dispute in the least :-)

Both of them can be configured with stateful rules. My (as yet 
limited) understanding is that, essentially, they perform analogous 
functions albeit ipfilter seems to be slighly more flexible.

BTW, as an exercise, I am developing solutions based on both.

You may wish to have a look at Marc's tutorial (on ipfw), which is 
found at http://www.freeebsd.org/tutorials/dialup-firewall: mutatis 
mutandis, it will provide an excellent starting point; other general 
information (about firewalls) is found in the handbook.

You might also want to read the relevant man pages (security(7); 
ipfw(8); ipf(1,4,5)), and/or browse a few sites dealing with security 
(e.g. http://www.cert.org); as regards ipfilter at large, you may wish 
to begin reading
http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/firewalls/ipf-howto.txt; 
in addition, you will want to search the archives, in particular 
-security, and gather further (more or less theological) information.

One last note. 
A couple of days ago a dangerous network-related bug was detected: you 
may wish to retrieve kern/19722.

HTH just a tiny bit,
Salvo





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