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Date:      Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:16:28 -0500 (EST)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Martin Blapp <mb@imp.ch>, Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>, Gregory Sutter <gsutter@zer0.org>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/mountd mountd.c src/usr.sbin/rpc.lo
Message-ID:  <XFMail.20030117191628.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20030117155605.A4640@FreeBSD.org>

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On 17-Jan-2003 Juli Mallett wrote:
> * De: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.org> [ Data: 2003-01-17 ]
>       [ Subjecte: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/mountd mountd.c src/usr.sbin/rpc.lockd lockd.c
> src/usr.sbin/rpc.statd statd.c src/usr.sbin/rpc.yppasswdd yppasswdd_main.c src/usr.sbin/rpcbind
> rpcb_svc_
>> If memory serves me right, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>> > * Gregory Sutter <gsutter@zer0.org> [030117 14:09] wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > Ah, right.  An immediate message to developers and later forced
>> > > commit.  Somehow I misread that the first time such that both the
>> > > message and the forced commit would come only after the public
>> > > release of security information.  Sorry.
>> > > 
>> > > What do you think of codifying the situation in the Committer's Guide?
>> > 
>> > I think it's a great idea, when will you be done? :)
>> 
>> It sounds to me like you (pl.) are advocating early disclosure of
>> security vulnerability information to a set of several hundred people, 
>> at a time when generally, only a handful of people have need-to-know.
>> 
>> (In case it's not clear, this idea scares me greatly.)
> 
> We just need to know that there *is* a security-related aspect to what
> has been committed, and that we should await further info.

No, that gives you a reason to possibly go look at it to try and
figure out what the fixed bug was.  Instead, you just need to trust
that during a release freeze the folks on re@ are not a bunch of
boneheads and if that they sign off on something, they have a good
reason for it.

The so@ folks don't tell developers@ everytime they learn of a
vulnerability, so I don't see why we need a different rule for
quick MFC's during a release freeze.

-- 

John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>  <><  http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/
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