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Date:      Fri, 2 Jul 2004 18:32:27 -0400
From:      epilogue <epilogue@allstream.net>
To:        Bruce Hunter <freebsd@solisix.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 01:21:19 -0400
Bruce Hunter <freebsd@solisix.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 23:50, epilogue wrote:
> > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:40:08 -0400
> > Bruce Hunter <freebsd@solisix.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:45, epilogue wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:46:04 -0700
> > > > Dan Finn <dhrider@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue
> > > > > <epilogue@allstream.net> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400
> > > > > > Aaron Walker <ka0ttic@butsugenjitemple.org> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Roop Nanuwa wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best
> > > > > > > > web browser that's extremely light but still has all the
> > > > > > > > "modern day" features one would expect from a web browser
> > > > > > > > and then some. I will warn you about a couple of things,
> > > > > > > > though.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash.
> > > > > > > > I've pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never
> > > > > > > > gotten the two to work together. If you want to view Flash,
> > > > > > > > then install the linux-opera port.
> > > > > > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of
> > > > > > > > time. I've been using Opera for a long time and I simply
> > > > > > > > can't tolerate any other browsers. The feature set it
> > > > > > > > provides is so expansive that other browsers will seem
> > > > > > > > utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a while and
> > > > > > > > then notice that random':w' or ':wq' start appearing in
> > > > > > > > places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so used
> > > > > > > > to the commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface
> > > > > > > > is not for everyone. Just realize that the interface is
> > > > > > > > highly configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's
> > > > > > > > not to your liking.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --roop
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with
> > > > > > > Opera?  I did a search of the ports tree and found quite a
> > > > > > > few flash ports and was confused on which one to install.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > um, this one...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player
> > > > > > for Linux Mozilla and
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > hth,
> > > > > > epi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go
> > > > > ahead and install it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work
> > > > > fine. I get this when I try and run it:
> > > > > 
> > > > > [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera 
> > > > > opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not
> > > > > found or could not be opened (-7)
> > > > > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> > > > 
> > > > well, i've never run into this problem before, but the ports have a
> > > > tendency to change from day to day and funny things can happen.
> > > > 
> > > > my guess is that the linux-aspell (ports/textproc) dependency
> > > > wasn't installed.  try adding that and see what happens.
> > > > 
> > > > also, just to be certain, do you have one of the linux-base ports
> > > > installed and linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf?  if not, this
> > > > will definitely cause you all sorts of grief.  if you end up
> > > > installing a linux-base and adding that setting to rc.conf, just be
> > > > aware that it will take a reboot(or some other less drastic
> > > > wizardry that i don't know) in order for the new rc.conf setting to
> > > > take effect.
> > > > 
> > > > for the record, i'm using linux_base-8 and haven't had any problems
> > > > whatsoever.  some ports (acroread, for example) will ask for a
> > > > different linux_base version but will install anyway. after the
> > > > install of any such program, you just pkgdb -Fu and tell it to
> > > > depend upon the version you have installed.
> > > > 
> > > > give all this a shot and let us know what comes of it.  i'm not
> > > > sure that i've hit upon 'your' problem, but i've got my fingers
> > > > crossed.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > I got linux-opera installed and working. Then I installed 
> > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25, and opera shows it in its plugin list, but
> > > when I go to view a flash site, the flash is a blank area. I no
> > > longer get the message telling me I haven't got flash installed.
> > 
> > hello again,
> > 
> > well, jsyk, the flash plugin doesn't work 100% of the time.  so far, i
> > haven't bumped into too many problematic sites, however ymwv.
> > 
> > please send me the URL you're visiting.  i'll give it a whirl on my end
> > and let you know what kind of results i get.  if it doesn't work on my
> > end, we'll probably both have to wait for the next version of flash
> > from macromedia (not opera's fault and should give the same poor
> > results in firefox, moz, galeon, etc).  if it does work on my end, i'll
> > help you to determine the problem as best i can.
> > 
> > ep
> > 
> http://www.mlcompany.net is the url
> Hmm..

well, it seems to be working just find for me.

if you type opera:about [enter] in the address bar, you'll get a page with
information about what you've got installed.  this is what i've got:

Version	7.51 Final 	<<< latest version of opera.
Build	689 	
Platform  Linux 	  <<< yep, the linux version.
System	i386, 2.4.2

[snip]

Plug-in path:
/usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/plugins 	
/usr/local/lib/linux-flashplugin7    <<<<<<< is your flash plugin listed?
/usr/local/Acrobat5/Browsers/intellinux

if not, perhaps it simply wasn't automagically detected.  you can always
add the plugin to opera manually via [alt-p > plugins > find new OR change
path AND add]

if the plugin does appear, my next guess would be that you've installed an
older version of flash (hey, that's easy to do.  after all, there are 3 in
the ports collection - versions 5, 6, and 7).  in the case of flash, the
newer it is, the more success you'll have getting it to interpret pages. 
be sure that you've got _linux_ version 7.  give it another whirl.

does any of this do the trick for you?


fingers crossed,
epi


> 
> Bruce
> 
> 



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