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Date:      Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:00:53 +0200
From:      Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org>
To:        Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [HEADS UP] Fwd: svn commit: r328711 - in head: . Mk astro/viking cad/pdnmesh cad/repsnapper deskutils/pinot devel/xorg-macros emulators/catapult emulators/qemu-devel emulators/tme games/klavaro games/sea-defender ...
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On 10/01/13 17:01, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/01/13 00:16, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
>>> On 09/29/13 19:17, Niclas Zeising wrote:
>>>> HEADS UP!
>>>>
>>>> I just committed an update to the MESA graphics stack (libGL, dri) and
>>>> various other xorg ports.  This mostly relates to people running with
>>>> WITH_NEW_XORG=, but be sure to check UPDATING before updating.
>>>> If you have any qeustions, don't hesitate to contact me or send a mail
>>>> to the freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org mailing list.
>>>> Regards!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Great work!
>>>
>>> However, I think a little more info would be welcome by a lot of people.
>>>
>>> E.g.
>>> In my case I have a Radeon card on 9.1... so:
>>> _ I don't have KMS, right?
>>
>> No, you don't.  You have to update to the latest 10-CURRENT for that.
>>
>>> _ up to now WITH_NEW_XORG has prevented 3D hardware acceleration from
>>> working; is it still so with this update?
>>
>> I think so.  Your best bet is to update to CURRENT.  10.0 isn't that far
>> off, and we are in a code freeze, so 10 is reasonably stable.
>>
>>> _ any caveat?
>>
>> None known, just read UPDATING.
>> Regards!
>>
> 
> Not to be contrary, but I think this is an exceptionally bad time to switch
> to current if you want stability. Maybe in another week, but not quite yet.
> When code freeze is upon us, there are LOTS of commits of WIP, and things
> tend to break rather badly for a few days. These issues are normally fixed
> fairly quickly, but it takes a little time and, from the issues raised in
> mail to current@, things are still a bit rough.
> 
> I really don't want to discourage the use of 10.0 as more use is far better
> for a solid release, but running current can be a bit more risky, and
> running it right after freeze is especially so. (So is running it right
> after current is re-opened after release.) I'd recommend waiting until
> around 10/10. (I like this date as it is the same whether your locality
> puts month or day first). By then current should be pretty stable.
> 

Just for the record, I've never really had any major trouble with
CURRENT, and run it regularly on my desktop and laptop.
Regards!
-- 
Niclas Zeising



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