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Date:      Wed, 9 Jan 2002 03:26:18 +0100 (CET)
From:      BOUWSMA Beery <freebsd-user@netscum.dyndns.dk>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   console becomes unusable after screensaver -- who is to blame?
Message-ID:  <200201090226.g092QIN00211@beerswilling.netscum.dyndns.dk>

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Howdy

This is something that normally hasn't been a problem -- with a
different video card, I've loaded the green saver, done all my work
on the sc consoles, the saver's kicked in when I've failed at staying
awake, the monitor has powered down, and then when I've rolled over
onto the keyboard, the monitor comes back on and I can work, or fall
back asleep, or whatever.

However, after putting in this newer Eeevil Kyro video card (pci1:
<SGS-Thomson model 0010 VGA-compatible display device> at 0.0 irq 11
I haven't been able to wake up the display after the saver has kicked
in for a length of time.

I'm able to manually invoke (shift-pause) the saver and soon after,
return to normal.  And I've never had any problems with the other
video card I've normally used.

I made the mistake of falling asleep while listening to an mp3,
and I seem to remember that it didn't sound quite right as I slept.
When I half-woke, I couldn't get the display to come back on by the
keyboard, but the mp3 sounded a bit better (I think, I was mostly
asleep and the `music' wasn't something I'd be able to identify as
sounding abnormal without being familiar with it, which I wasn't).

I then moved the mouse.  Then the `music' sounded like the machine had
wedged.  The monitor didn't come back on.  I didn't get any response
from a serial port that I thought might have a getty (later I verified
it should).

So after a reboot, when I got into saver mode again but without any
mp3 playing, again I couldn't get the keyboard to wake the monitor.
However, this time, whacking the mouse returned the display to life
and indeed the mouse cursor was hopping smoothly around.

But still the keyboard, a generic IBM clickety-click PS/2 model,
could not be used for anything.  But what I did notice is that each
time I hit a key, any mouse movement would freeze for a few seconds,
before returning to normal.  Dis- and reconnecting the keyboard (I'm
not admitting to doing so) did no good.  Usual numlock and scrolllock
keys made no difference.  Only the serial port could be used, though
I could cut and paste from the mouse into the login prompt.

Obviously this particular video card seems to disagree with something.
But who really is to blame?  I don't know enough to say
* the video card is responsible for hosing the keyboard
* there's some BIOS video power manglement option that I need to
  change
* there's something in the green_saver module or FreeBSD itself

I haven't taken the time to try the several BIOS choices to see if
they make a difference.  But if anyone has any ideas, I'm open to
learning.  I haven't tried the apm_saver at all.

---
Actually, it seems that what is happening with this particular video
card and the green saver, is identical to what happens on a different
machine with a completely different card and BIOS, when I boot without
a keyboard attached at time of the kernel probe, such as when I boot
to log to a serial console, and then attach the keyboard later.  I have
but a single keyboard I must juggle around.  So it doesn't seem that
the video card is at fault itself.  Weird.


thanks,
barry bouwsma


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