Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 10:49:36 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> To: John <jwd@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rtools were deemed almost unused 15 years ago... Message-ID: <CAGSa5y1X7C2PfnXoOF3yH2RkGzh-im-G8yfyNu9otMkgMJvJpA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20171003230438.GA53445@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAGSa5y3kVajpSSJUT9Vt0-dTwtaXMwNWvv_ELH14z68osM0UYA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGSa5y1=1zN0ywKQ--HTi%2BDY18M5o%2BGR0fv6CyaaF9WX-z9BZg@mail.gmail.com> <CAGSa5y02X=Ni5HeGD=LiV8L-=Denf6ybNus7C0q3nJ9t4sVwWw@mail.gmail.com> <CAGSa5y2igMZF_=crLHcYmo3M%2BUdK0CH1LRxSviUfvJLvwMM1FQ@mail.gmail.com> <20171003230438.GA53445@FreeBSD.org>
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:04 AM, John <jwd@freebsd.org> wrote: > Have you picked up the recent changes to the code in your port? Yes I did: https://github.com/jlehen/bsdrcmds/commit/3bc90c337176af0953b4194c14825ea14300de90 -- Jeremie > > ----- Jeremie Le Hen's Original Message ----- >> I've slacked a bit but here we are: >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12573 >> >> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> wrote: >> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >> So the first step was to create a port with FreeBSD rcmds, here we >> >> are! But I need some eyes to vet it: >> >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D11345 >> > >> > The port has been submitted and RCMDS are disabled by default from the >> > base system. >> > >> > See you in a month for the removal! >> > >> > -- Jeremie >> > >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- Jeremie >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >>> Hey folks, >> >>> >> >>> I remember when I was still barely out of my teenagehood, people were >> >>> mostly using ssh/scp while rtools (rsh, rlogin, ... for the >> >>> youngsters) were left in place as a courtesy for legacy production >> >>> systems still relying it on them. >> >>> >> >>> Fast forward to 2017 (so yes, 15 years later), stack-clash [1] sorely >> >>> reminds us that suid binaries are an attack surface. I don't even need >> >>> to mention that it's a healthy engineering practice to remove unused >> >>> code, both from a maintenance and security perspective. >> >>> >> >>> Therefore, I hereby propose to remove rtools from the base system. I >> >>> acknowledge this will likely cause troubles for a handful of people >> >>> who are still relying on it for good or bad reasons. But the flipside >> >>> is that the attack surface of millions of FreeBSD installed out there >> >>> will be reduced. >> >>> >> >>> The proposed roadmap is: >> >>> - disable from the build on head and let it soak for one month >> >>> - remove rtools from the base. >> >>> >> >>> What do you guys think? Any preferred color for the bikeshed? :) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> [1] https://www.qualys.com/2017/06/19/stack-clash/stack-clash.txt >> >>> -- >> >>> Jeremie Le Hen >> >>> jlh@FreeBSD.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeremie Le Hen >> >> jlh@FreeBSD.org >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jeremie Le Hen >> > jlh@FreeBSD.org >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeremie Le Hen >> jlh@FreeBSD.org >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Jeremie Le Hen jlh@FreeBSD.org
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