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Date:      Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:15:42 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Joe Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        Cynic <cynic@mail.cz>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: config for POP3 mail
Message-ID:  <20010614181142.G5300-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010614234835.02126ef8@mail.cz>

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You really want a few applications here.  fetchmail will collect mail from
multiple servers, and queue it to your local MTA for delivery.  This way,
you can filter the mail as it's delivered on your system.  For reading
your mail once it's on your local box, you can use any MUA (I like Pine,
but mutt is also cool, and there are tons of other MUAs for UNIX).

For notification, I like xbuffy or gbuffy (both in /usr/ports/mail).  Both
can check for mail in multiple mail boxes on a local system, but gbuffy
also has the ability to use POP and IMAP to check for mail.

Admittedly, I use sendmail on all my machines, so mileage may vary with
other MTAs.

Joe Clarke

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Cynic wrote:

> Thanks for the info.
>
> Yeah, I've heard fetchmail is very flexible, but I've also heard
> it's pretty complicated. I'd like to try getmail if it can do what
> I need.
>
> IMAP isn't an option for me, that means Pine is out of question...
> Unless I use something else to collect mail off the POP3 servers,
> and use Pine on my local mailbox/maildir, I guess.
>
> I'm looking for a solution that will:
> 1) collect my mail from several (actually, it's three) POP3 accounts
> 2) filter it upon retrieval
> 3) let me know that I have new mail (message sent to the console)
>
> I understand that getmail can do 1 and 2 for me, and I can use pretty
> much any MUA to read, etc. my mail. Since all of my mail is POP3-based,
> I'll need something to send outgoing mail to my SMTP servers, right?
> Like sendmail, right?
>
> As for connection: both LAN (at work) and dialup (at home).
>
> Thanks again.
>
> At 23:24 14.6. 2001, Joe Clarke wrote the following:
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >If your MUA supports POP, then that will transfer mail from your mail
> >server to your local machine.  A dedicated MTA is not needed for this.
> >
> >The way I do it is use pine to check email on an IMAP server. I have
> >filters setup on the mail server to filter my mail from freebsd-*
> >appropriately.  Pine then knows how to check the multiple mailboxes.
> >
> >I have also used /usr/ports/mail/fetchmail in the past to pull email off
> >of a POP3 server, and deliver it locally.  fetchmail is _very_
> >configurable, and works well for dialup connections.
> >
> >I guess it depends on your connection to your mail server as to what
> >method you'll prefer.  If you have a on-demand link, the fetchmail
> >alternative might be the way to go.  If you have a dedicated connection,
> >using IMAP or POP right out of your MUA would save you the extra setup
> >hassle.
> >
> >Joe Clarke
> >
> >On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Cynic wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> coming from the NT world, I'm a bit baffled by the unix
> >> distinction of MUA's / MTA's. So, if someone can kindly
> >> confirm (or explain if I'm wrong) a few things, I'll be more
> >> than happy.
> >>
> >> If I get this right, one can use a MUA (like mutt, pine, etc)
> >> to read mail on their IMAP server, or in their local mailbox.
> >> If one has a POP3 account, they'll need an MTA to deliver
> >> mail from their POP3 server to their workstation (or, local
> >> mailbox), where it can be read using an MUA. Same with
> >> sending mail -- if you have an IMAP account, you're off with
> >> just an MUA, but need an MTA with a POP3 one.
> >>
> >> Right or wrong? :)
> >>
> >> I'm ignoring the setup of the server, here, the frebsd machine
> >> is just a workstation, where I want to be able to handle my
> >> email just like in windoze.
> >>
> >> Basically, I would very much welcome a link to an explanation
> >> of this stuff for a win32 user. Seems like this is an area
> >> where the terms I'm used to don't translate easily. (what the
> >> heck is multidrop? :) I guess this confusion mostly comes from
> >> the fact that while win32 mail software uses the kitchen-sink
> >> approach (one app fetches, sends, views, filters into folders,
> >> and notices you of new mail), unices make mail no exception to
> >> their set-of-specialized-tools attitude.
> >>
> >> Also, if you can recommend a setup... I recieve ~200 messages
> >> a day mainly from several busy mailing lists. Seems like I could
> >> use e. g. getmail to fetch email and sort it into folders upon
> >> retrieval, right?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >>
> >> cynic@mail.cz
> >> -------------
> >> And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files
> >> were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files.
> >>     - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7
> >>
> >>
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>
>
> cynic@mail.cz
> -------------
> And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files
> were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files.
>     - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7
>
>
>


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