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Date:      Sat, 2 Jul 2011 01:35:54 -0400
From:      Prateek Sharma <prateek3.14@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD KVM port
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KVM has been around since 2007, so it's hardly new.

Is there an equivalent hypervisor for FreeBSD ? AFAIK, even Xen Dom0
is not possible (please correct me if i am wrong) . So the only option
for virtualization available seems to be virtual-box.

So FreeBSD has _just one_ hypervisor which works. And from my limited
experience with it, i dont think it can be considered 'production
grade'. And virtualbox does not come close to kvm/xen in terms of
performance/management features . Also the whole Oracle thing ...

I was curious about KVM support because of coming across the old port
(2007). What happened to it ?


2011/6/30 K. Macy <kmacy at freebsd.org>:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Prateek Sharma <prateek3.14 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for informing about BHyve.
>>
>> But KVM is feature-complete, and has been around for a long time as
>> well. Also supports a large number of guests etc.

vmware and xen are around for a long time. KVM is the new one in
production context.

>
> And is GPL and dependent on Linux APIs. Any KVM port will
> intrinsically be dependent on shimming to Linux APIs with all the
> problems that that potentially entails.

IMHO gpl  is not the main problem.  KVM is a linux kernel module that
manage virtual contexts.
It works with an io hypervisor (virtio) and and hardware emulator
(qemu). So porting
KVM to FreeBSD has no sense. The need is a tool to manage hardware contexts.
This tool is  BHyve, I think.

Let's have a look at what we currently get.
- Qemu is working but does not support vt.
- VirtualBox just works and support vt
- Jails are becoming real containers
- NetApp is working on a new hypervisor
- A virtio driver should be soon available
- Xen is supported has a domU
- a set of useful features like cpuset, vnet, zfs, hast, rctl, geom
are now available

So what is missing ? Maybe an unified manager ala libvirt ? Some fs
improvement like
distribution, iscsi ? A bsd style cluster manager ? A lot of things
are missing most of them are
configuration  tools or stabilization, finalization of existing
projects. But not an other
hypervisor, I think.

Cheers
Joris
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:15 PM, K. Macy <kmacy at freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> Courtesy of NetApp, FreeBSD has grown its own hypervisor "BHyve". I
>>> don't have the initial commit at hand but it shouldn't be hard to
>>> find. This is still a bit green, but is quite promising.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Prateek Sharma <prateek3.14 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>   I wanted to know the status of KVM (qemu-kvm) on FreeBSD. There
>>>> seems to have been some work done earlier
>>>> [http://retis.sssup.it/~fabio/freebsd/lkvm/] , but it seems quite old
>>>> (2007) .
>>>>
>>>>    Is it possible to run KVM on freebsd, or is there some work
>>>> already going into this ?
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