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Date:      Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:14:05 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        Matthew Hunt <mph@astro.caltech.edu>
Cc:        kip@lyris.com, Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@FreeBSD.ORG>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive on as default ?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.990601131045.13159G-100000@current1.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <19990601130331.A21176@wopr.caltech.edu>

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this is less and less of a problem because
if you lose your link on PPP
you are liable to get a differetn IP address on your redial.

for network outages in the middle it works though..
but I'd rather have a keepalive of 10 x 4 hour pings before failure..
(or something as long..)

It's really a per-connection decision on what makes sense

julian



On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Matthew Hunt wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 12:40:34PM -0700, kip@lyris.com wrote:
> 
> > declared dead. I think it somewhat silly to say that this is consuming a
> > lot of bandwidth. The average mail message (4k) is 4 packets, the average
> 
> The other issue is that you don't necessarily want the TCP connection
> to close just because you lose connectivity for a few hours.  If we
> send keepalives by default, might that not surprise users who don't
> expect it?
> 
> I'm thinking of long-lived connections like telnet and ssh; if you're
> doing work over such a connection, it would be nice if the connection
> endured an outage while you're away sleeping, like it does without
> keepalives.
> 
> -- 
> Matthew Hunt <mph@astro.caltech.edu> * UNIX is a lever for the
> http://www.pobox.com/~mph/           * intellect. -J.R. Mashey
> 
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