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Date:      Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:15:50 +0300
From:      Vlad GALU <vladgalu@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Looking For Ideas or Suggestions
Message-ID:  <79722fad050624151524700a27@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <200506241812.07076.greg@qwest.net>
References:  <200506241812.07076.greg@qwest.net>

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On 6/25/05, Greg Rowe <greg@qwest.net> wrote:
> Greetings,
>  I've been chasing a network interface "freeze" problem on and off for so=
me
> time now and it's driving me nuts !
>=20
> The problem occurs on two identical mail servers that sit behind a firewa=
ll.
> Both systems have two ethernet interfaces and when I'm having this proble=
m
> the external interface will "freeze" once or twice an hour for between 10=
-15
> seconds. The systems continue to run during these freezes and it doesn't
> effect the traffic on the 2nd interface. The problem is also intermittent=
 in
> that it will effect one system for several weeks and then just go away. T=
oday
> it's effecting both systems.
>=20
>  The systems are Sun Fire V60X dual  3.06GHZ Xeon processor systems with
> integrated Intel PRO/1000 (em0) ethernet ports, 2GB of memory. We have a
> number of these systems and these are the only two experiencing the probl=
em.
> They are running 4.11 STABLE although they were originally installed with
> 4.10 STABLE and upgraded to see if this fixed the problem. The one system
> currently has an Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B card installed as the primar=
y
> interface to see if the em0 was my problem, but I still have freezes usin=
g
> fxp0. Both systems are very lightly loaded and running Sendmail and anti-=
spam
> packages.
>=20
>  The systems hang off Catalyst switches that have been checked and rechec=
ked.
> No errors or config issues. Duplex, speed and mediaopt are all set in rc.=
conf
> and aren't autodetected. Cables and ports have all been swapped. No error=
s in
> netstat or any logs. Sysctl " log_in_vain's" aren't showing me any clues.=
 The
> interface just freezes and then starts again with no messages. Tests usin=
g
> pings from system to the other out each interface prove that the emo/fxp0
> freezes with packet loss while pings to the em1 interface have no problem=
s.
>=20
>  Now, here's where it gets stranger. By accident I found one way to guara=
ntee
> that a freeze won't occur. If I log into the system via the fxp0/em0
> interface and start a ping against the IP of that interface. As long as t=
he
> ping is running (I've tried days) and outputing the ping stats every seco=
nd,
> the interface is freeze free ! I liken it to keeping the interface "warm"=
 !!
> Doing the same ping with a -q for some reason doesn't stop the freezes. I=
t
> needs the ping output to keep "warm". Pinging the em0 address from anothe=
r
> system or while logged in through the other interface also won't stop the
> freeze. The freeze isn't login window related, although it may sound that
> way. The interface just stops working for no apparent reason and then sta=
rts
> again after 10 or 15 seconds.
>=20
>  I've gone the network sniffer route and really can't see anything out of=
 the
> ordinary happening when the freeze occurs. Most ports are blocked by the
> firewall and the systems also have ipfw enabled (taken out of the kernel =
on
> one to see if maybe that was causing the problem). I'm running out of ide=
as
> short of replacing bigger hardware than an ethernet card. The problem is =
I
> don't know what to replace. I've been building and running FreeBSD system=
s
> for many years and this one has me and everyone else stumped.
>=20
>  I'm looking for any suggestions as to what I could enable or tweak that =
may
> give me some info as to why the interfaces are intermittently freezing. I=
'm
> willing to try just about anything right now. Thanks.
>=20

  Are you sure that's not your catalyst forgetting about the MAC of
the machine ? Or the MAC expiring from the ARP table of your router ?
Are you experiencing unicast floods while this phenomena is happening
?

>=20
>=20
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