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Date:      Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:48:45 +0100
From:      Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de>
To:        Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Observations from a ZFS reorganization on 12-STABLE
Message-ID:  <86C7CA40-EBB4-498E-BFD9-34187DBE1323@ultra-secure.de>
In-Reply-To: <58eb1994-41bd-cd22-be66-0024bcbc36e6@denninger.net>
References:  <58eb1994-41bd-cd22-be66-0024bcbc36e6@denninger.net>

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> Am 17.03.2019 um 15:58 schrieb Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>:
>=20
> I've long argued that the VM system's interaction with ZFS' arc cache
> and UMA has serious, even severe issues.  12.x appeared to have
> addressed some of them, and as such I've yet to roll forward any part =
of
> the patch series that is found here [
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D187594 =
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D187594>; ] or the
> Phabricator version referenced in the bug thread (which is =
more-complex
> and attempts to dig at the root of the issue more effectively,
> particularly when UMA is involved as it usually is.)
>=20
> Yesterday I decided to perform a fairly significant reorganization of
> the ZFS pools on one of my personal machines, including the root pool
> which was on mirrored SSDs, changing to a Raidz2 (also on SSDs.)  This
> of course required booting single-user from a 12-Stable memstick.



Interesting.

The patches published before Christmas 2018 solved all of the problems I =
had (shared by many others, probably also visible on the FreeBSD =
project=E2=80=99s own infrastructure) with 11.2 and 12.0

I run a decently sized syslog-server and the 25MB/s stream of =
syslog-data was killing 11.2 almost instantly.

I have a few 11.2 systems that I haven=E2=80=99t patched yet - but they =
have north of 128GB of RAM and ARC had been configured down to 70% long =
before that - so I never saw the issue there.





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