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Date:      Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:27:49 +0200
From:      Danny Pansters <danny@ricin.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: mplayer/mplayer-plugin question
Message-ID:  <200504240127.50065.danny@ricin.com>
In-Reply-To: <426AD5D8.5060907@kutulu.org>
References:  <20050420155742.GA83965@thought.org> <200504240018.08315.danny@ricin.com> <426AD5D8.5060907@kutulu.org>

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On Sunday 24 April 2005 01:10, Mike Edenfield wrote:
> Danny Pansters wrote:
> > Of course that is if people _WANT_ to do away with the X prefix, up until
> > now my impression was that most folks didn't mind it or even thought it
> > was better. I never really cared very much about it apart from aestetic
> > [sp?] reasons, but I can certainly imagine it being confusing to some
> > (new) users.
>
> I have always historically liked having a /usr/local and
> /usr/X11R6.  If I converted a machine to headless, such as
> retiring a workstation into a backup MX or such,  rm -rf
> /usr/X11R6 was always clean and easy, and cleared up tons of
> space.

"a place that's convenient to rm -rf". OK, that's one use ;-)

>
> Even now, it's annoying that KDE puts its stuff one place
> and GNOME puts it stuff somewhere else.  I'd rather have it
> all in /usr/X11R6 -- anything GUI related in one place that
> I can both mentally and physically segregate.
>
> Having said all that, I admit this is mostly inertia from
> before decent packaging systems existed.  I'm used to
> immediately going into /usr/X11R6 to find the configuration
> data for my UI, but as mentioned, KDE's already screwing
> that up for me :)  And removing the GUI is as easy as
> pkg_delete -r imake*, so I think moving forward, there's no
> significant technical reason to keep a separate prefix.

As a matter of fact, as someone who almost always uses kde (also to work on 
Xless boxen from) and I only got exposed to "etc files" in /usr/X11R6 when 
doing something with gtk or with fxtv, both outside of my usual DE. Actually 
"etc files" are "lib files" in this case but you get the point. So that's 
coming from the other side of looking at it (most standard X stuff and Xlib 
apps is never touched even if it's in /usr/X11R6, the notable exception being 
XFConfig or xorgconfig. And this one, yes, resides in /etc per default...)

As for KDE, I don't see any kde config files in /usr/local/etc. They're 
in /usr/local/share/[applnk][apps][config]. It follows its own config tree 
relative to its install prefix, be it /usr/local or /usr/X11R6. Either way, 
it does its own thing with its own config files. And with such a large 
project it makes sense to dictate how your config files are organized (save 
for PREFIX). It makes it more portable, not less IMHO.

pkg_delete -r imake* is one for the archives I must say! :)

Dan








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