Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:51:02 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Cc: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <20160311145102.GR70809@zxy.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <56E2D88C.4000701@quip.cz> References: <20160308131847.GP1531@FreeBSD.org> <20160308151459.GB70809@zxy.spb.ru> <05A039B7-AA9A-47BB-B68E-89D9D5627D20@FreeBSD.org> <20160311120511.GN31877@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160311131055.GO70809@zxy.spb.ru> <20160311132059.GA11339@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160311133157.GP70809@zxy.spb.ru> <56E2CEF9.3080200@quip.cz> <20160311140513.GQ70809@zxy.spb.ru> <56E2D88C.4000701@quip.cz>
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 03:39:08PM +0100, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > >> Anything else is on your side and even if I understand your complaints > >> (and I agree with some of them) I don't thing it will change anything on > >> the future of packaged base. > >> So it is better to spend our time on working local solution to new > >> problem. It has some pros and some cons and I hope the pros will > >> outweigh cons. > > > > I am don't talk 'this is imposible'. I am talk 'this is awkward'. > > What purpose for paclaging base system? packaging for packaging? Or > > packaging for simplify and comfortably management, maintance and > > upgrade? > > I hope it will simplified updates. Freebsd-update was so unreliable and > unpredictable for me that I returned to the "make buildkernel && make for mee too. > buildworld" on builder machine and "make installkernel && make > installworld" through NFS on destinations. And it has some cons too - currently i am do binary update: beadm create 10.3-pREV beadm mount 10.3-pREV /mnt cd /mnt find -x . -flags +schg | xargs chflags noschg fetch -qo - http://HOST/update/doc.txz | tar xf - fetch -qo - http://HOST/update/kernel.txz | tar xf - fetch -qo - http://HOST/update/lib32.txz | tar xf - fetch -qo - http://HOST/update/base.txz | tar xf - --exclude ./boot/device.hints ./COPYRIGHT boot dev media mnt proc tmp bin lib libexec rescue sbin usr var/yp/Makefile.dist fetch http://HOST/update/etcupdate.tar gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ada1 cd / beadm umount 10.3-pREV beadm activate 10.3-pREV > recompile whole system and reinstall on all machines instead of just I am proposed: patch packages (replaced or removed some files). > some small package. It has it's impact on size of backups too. Size of backups?
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