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Date:      Sun, 27 Jan 2002 09:50:29 -0800 (PST)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Andre Oppermann <oppermann@pipeline.ch>
Cc:        Matthew Emmerton <matt@gsicomp.on.ca>, Clemens Hermann <haribeau@gmx.de>, BSD NET-List <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: natd restart
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0201270949290.42040-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <3C543C2F.970F0375@pipeline.ch>

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You can also add rules that allow packets that are going over the INTERNAL
interface to skip the NAT divert rules.
then you'd only be doing it once.


On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Andre Oppermann wrote:

> Matthew Emmerton wrote:
> > 
> > > Am 27.01.2002 um 02:11:30 schrieb Matthew Emmerton:
> > >
> > > Hi Matt,
> > >
> > > > Here's the patch that I wrote some time ago.
> > >
> > > thanks a lot!
> > > Did you send-pr the patch? It seems quite necessary to be added.
> > 
> > Not yet.  One of the things that I don't like about this patch is that old
> > rules still stay around (re-reading the configuration will only modify
> > existing rules and add new rules.)  I'm also taking a lot of flak on my side
> > of the fence since NAT runs as a userland process, so every packet gets
> > copied between the kernel and userland twice (once on the way in, once on
> > the way out.)  Apparently Linux doesn't do this.
> > 
> > I'm looking at making natd into a kernel option ("options IPNAT") and using
> > a combination of sysctls and a front-end program to manage how nat operates,
> > much like "options IPFIREWALL" and ipfw works today.
> 
> Have a look at IPFILTER where IPNAT is part of. It does everything in
> the kernel.
> 
> > This (in my mind) should greatly enhance the throughput of FreeBSD's NAT and
> > keep those Linux people from bashing us (or me, at least.)
> 
> Profile, don't speculate. On today's machines you don't notice any
> difference between userland vs. kernel NAT. I've tested FreeBSD's
> userland natd and it could easily push 93Mbit/s through a Athlon-
> 1.4GHz (which is essentially wirespeed (FreeBSD 4.3)) with two fxp
> cards.
> 
> -- 
> Andre
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