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Date:      Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:27:33 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        dg@root.com, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, committers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers 
Message-ID:  <199812280527.VAA07758@dingo.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:54:33 %2B1030." <19981228155433.X12346@freebie.lemis.com> 

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> On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 21:20:01 -0800, David Greenman wrote:
> >>> I don't like this; it grants any single core member power of veto, and
> >>> that's a current problem with our system already.
> >>
> >> I could see changing it to a majority vote, but not much less
> >> stringent than that.  Remember, this is about *removing* stuff and the
> >> historical propensity for our users to scream bloody murder when the
> >> furby driver, committed by a demented developer at 3am while under the
> >> influence of 7 bottles of cough syrup, is taken out.  We want to make
> >> it just a little harder than normal to remove existing functionality.
> >
> >    I might mention that the policy I proposed to Jordan didn't say
> > "unanimous"...it didn't say "majority", either, but that's actually what
> > I had in mind. Mike's comment about a quorum is a good one, though, and
> > I think this needs to be a majority of core members, not a majority of
> > those who vote on the issue. Does this satisfy the concerns?
> 
> You might consider somewhere between unanimous (difficult enough to
> achieve that it might cripple the idea) and a simple majority.  How
> does two thirds sound?

How would you count that?  Two thirds total core membership, or a 
two-thirds majority of counted votes?  Two thirds requires a fairly 
high quorum count, which is normally appropriate if the body is likely 
to be partisan or otherwise divided.  I was thinking that if core was 
fairly unanimous on things that quorum should be quite low (50-60%).

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