Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:21:23 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd@gmail.com> To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r187332 - head/tools/regression/usr.bin/jot Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0901251821u5aaec1afqc79f77c9423d2fe3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20090125.173505.1608379186.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20090120012256.GB29741@dragon.NUXI.org> <20090119.191238.1389906774.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090125235013.GA25031@dragon.NUXI.org> <20090125.173505.1608379186.imp@bsdimp.com>
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM, M. Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> In message: <20090125235013.GA25031@dragon.NUXI.org>
> "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> : On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 07:12:38PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : > In message: <20090120012256.GB29741@dragon.NUXI.org> "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> : > : On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 06:14:35PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : > : > In message: <20090119165030.GA18409@dragon.NUXI.org> "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> : > : > : Run VMware. Seriously. Or raise a serious discussion on developers@
> : > : > : about this and get conciseness that cross building on MacOS X and
> : > : > : MS-Windows is a goal.
> : > : >
> : > : > I've tried this on my mac. It doesn't work very well at all, and it a
> : > : > pita for file sharing.
> : > :
> : > : Sorry - I don't quite follow. What is "it"?
> :
> : [ reply snipped ]
> :
> : Ok, I thought you were saying running FreeBSD under VMware doesn't work
> : very well. I know for a fact that is not the case. I also wasn't sure
> : what you meant by "pita for file sharing" as NFS certainly works in
> : FreeBSD on the VM. I know MS-Windows under VMware Workstation and MacOS
> : X can share a common folder, but I've never looked at if VMware tools for
> : FreeBSD has that functionality also.
>
> FreeBSD inside a VM on the mac is a bit of a pita to get all the file
> sharing stuff right. the pita is on the mac side, for the most part,
> but smbfs on FreeBSD is so slow that it isn't useful for anything but
> the most trivial of file sharing.
>
> Requiring a VM to build freebsd on a foreign host is a good stop-gap,
> but not a good long term plan.
>
> Warner
Not just that -- the performance for buildworld, etc is horrid and
when you put the clock to sleep it tends to muck up the VM quite a bit
under freebsd so you have to go fudging around with a constantly
skewing clock.
I only use a VMware Fusion image because I don't want to run
RELENG_7 on my boxes (I run 8-CURRENT instead).
Cheers,
-Garrett
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