Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:11:22 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Perl... Somebody just shoot me and put me out of my misery! Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1311251425400.47885@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <5292F0F5.6090203@gmx.de> References: <25503.1385152807@server1.tristatelogic.com> <201311231220.36687.Mark.Martinec%2Bfreebsd@ijs.si> <5292F0F5.6090203@gmx.de>
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2013, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 23.11.2013 12:20, schrieb Mark Martinec: >> On Friday 22 November 2013 21:40:07 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >>> Now, one last little thing... >>> >>> The note in the UPDATING file dated 20131120 gives essentially the same >>> instructions as the one dated 20131023, *however* it also contains this: >>> >>> 1) Change the option in lang/perl5.16: >>> make -C /usr/ports/lang/perl5.16 config >>> >>> HUH?? I don't understand this at all. What exactly is "the option" that >>> we are changing here? And what does it matter to anything? >>> >>> It would be Nice if this were entierly less opaque. >> >> $ man ports >> [...] >> config Configure OPTIONS for this port using dialog4ports(1). >> >>> And what does it matter to anything? >> >> Gives you a choice to re-think your existing/chosen port options. >> For example, a new default is now THREADS, but you may not like >> it, as it somewhat increases the memory usage and requires >> to rebuild all perl modules. > > Which shows an interesting facet of this whole tedious process: > > We're doing a lousy job of explaining the options to unsavvy users, and > we're also doing a lousy job of tracking options. I don't know if I'd say it that way, but many users really have a hard time interpreting UPDATING. > Perhaps we should just slash down the options and go more for "build > the default" - it also reduces testing complexity and would give for a > more uniform ports experience for everyone (packages use default > options anyways). That's supposed to be changing. > I would even go that far to propose killing some common options such as > NLS DOCS EXAMPLES and replace them by a "make globcalconfig" that sets > them system-wide through make.conf, so that we don't need to set/reset > them each and every time a port changes options, nor even offer them. That is an excellent idea! This would also act as documentation of what global options are available.
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