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Date:      Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:36:00 -0400
From:      "Dan Langille" <dan@langille.org>
To:        Alex Zepeda <jazepeda@pacbell.net>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: MTA authentications
Message-ID:  <200106101336.f5ADa1U61233@lists.unixathome.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010610045013.B556@zippy.mybox.zip>
References:  <200106100343.f5A3hjU53739@lists.unixathome.org>; from dan@langille.org on Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 11:43:44PM -0400

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On 10 Jun 2001, at 4:50, Alex Zepeda wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 11:43:44PM -0400, Dan Langille wrote:
> 
> > I also meant to say that it appears that this new "standard" is not 
> > backwards compatible.
> 
> It is very much so.  SSL is implemented via smtps (and depreciated), and
> is essentially just SMTP being wrapped with SSL.  TLS has been integrated
> fully into SMTP (forgot the RFC here) via the STARTTLS (STLS in POP3)  
> command.
> 
> Thus your MTA seems to be coerced into attempting an TLS connection (this
> is advertised w/ the EHLO response)... and it's being denied.  Likely
> because of lack of certificate.  If your MTA didn't support TLS at all,
> you {probably,should} see a different error message.

Interesting.  I just tried a manual message:

[dan@lists:/etc/mail] $ telnet mail.thedatasource.net 25
Trying 207.91.110.72...
Connected to mail.thedatasource.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 thedatasource.net ESMTP CommuniGate Pro 3.2.4
helo lists.unixathome.org
250 thedatasource.net is pleased to meet you
mail from: dan@langille.org
250 dan@langille.org sender accepted
rcpt to: piskapo@thedatasource.net
250 piskapo@thedatasource.net will leave the Internet
DATA
354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
This is a test message.  Mail to you has been blocked by the
following error:

Jun 11 00:31:42 lists sendmail[59846]: f583XcY11785: TLS: error: 
SSL_connect failed=0 (5)
Jun 11 00:31:42 lists sendmail[59846]: f583XcY11785: 
ruleset=tls_server, arg1=SOFTWARE, relay=dan@localhost, rejec
t=403 4.7.0 piskapo@thedatasource.net... TLS handshake failed.

.
250 1090082 message accepted for delivery
quit
221 thedatasource.net SMTP The Data Source Network Closing - All 
Your e-mail Are Belong To Us!
Connection closed by foreign host.

Which appears to have worked...  But when I tried to send a message 
to the postmaster:

Jun 11 01:29:26 lists sendmail[61162]: f5ADTOU61162: 
from=<dan@langille.org>, size=1172, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=
<200106101329.f5ADTOU61162@lists.unixathome.org>, 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=lists.unixathome.org [210.48.103.
158]
Jun 11 01:29:28 lists sendmail[61164]: f5ADTOU61162: TLS: error: 
SSL_connect failed=0 (5)
Jun 11 01:29:28 lists sendmail[61164]: f5ADTOU61162: 
ruleset=tls_server, arg1=SOFTWARE, relay=lists.unixathome.org
 [210.48.103.158], reject=403 4.7.0 
<postmaster@thedatasource.net>... TLS handshake failed.
Jun 11 01:29:28 lists sendmail[61164]: f5ADTOU61162: 
to=<postmaster@thedatasource.net>, ctladdr=<dan@langille.org>
 (1001/1001), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, 
pri=31172, relay=mail.thedatasource.net. [207.91.110.
72], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: 403 4.7.0 
<postmaster@thedatasource.net>... TLS handshake failed.


Hmmmm.

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